[nfb-talk] ACB members in NFB

Mon Aug 7 04:39:27 CDT 2006

You know what?  I won't dignify that with a response.  I was mature about 
it.  You stooped to calling it platitudes, and my thinking behind the times. 
Frankly, Joe, I don't want to step into that foxhole with you, okay?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joe harcz" <michiganadapt at peoplepc.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] ACB members in NFB

> what A LOVELY AND MOST GOOFY RESPONSE.
>
> thanks I'm SURE IT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE MINDSET OF  BOTH ORGANIZATIONS
> OF THE BLIND. I'm MORE CERTAIN THAT nfb IN PARTICULAR PLACES ITS 
> PHILOSOPHY
> OVER ESTABLISHED FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS INCLUDING section 504 OF THE
> rehabilitation act OF 1973. iT IS APPLICABLE IF YOU ALL RECEIVE FEDERAL
> FUNDS AND YOU ALL DO VIS A VIS nEWSLINE, kfb rEADER AND SO ON AND SO 
> FORTH.
>
> in OTHER WORDS ALL IF YOU ACCEPT FEDERAL FUNDS YOU ALL MUST A BIDE BY
> FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS RULES OR FOREGOES THOSE FUNDS AND YOU IN nfb HAVE NOT
> DONE SO.
>
> but I'm WASTING MY WORDS UPON THOSE WHO JUST DON'T FOLLOW THOSE RULES AND
> THOSE WHO THINK ONLY IN PLATITUDES.
>
> mind YOU TO BE FAIR THE BULK OF acb ARE ALSO BRAINWASHED FOLKS WHO 
> WOULDN'T
> KNOW CIVIL RIGHTS IF THEY BIT THEM ON THEIR SORRY BEHINDS!
>
> aND NO, THE TERM "BEHIND" IS NOT PORNOGRAPHIC. iT MEANS THAT YOU AND 
> OTHERS
> ARE BEHIND THE TIMES.
>
> bUT i PRE-EMPT...
>
> sIGH...
>
> jOE
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] ACB members in NFB
>
>
>> They can if you become a nuisance, or spew obscenities and hate speech.
>> Now, mind you, I didn't say you *HAVE* done that, but if you ever did,
>> then
>> they would have every right to keep you off the list serve at their
>> discretion.
>>
>> Why I say this, so I am clear that I am not singling you out is, for
>> example, if a person got on here and wrote sexually explicit messages, or
>> talked about killing federationists in gas chambers, or some such thing,
>> the
>> list owners would have every right to block that person from the list
>> serve.
>> That said, however, who they block is at their discretion, so if you're
>> not
>> as bad as the examples I cited above, and yet, disrupt the function of 
>> the
>> list, then they *STILL* have the right.
>>
>> It isn't all about legalities.  To me it's about keeping an even keel...a
>> smoothly flowing community and not a divisive one going on the list.
>>
>> Granted, I've seen divisiveness get cut a bit too much slack on this list
>> (and I'm not aiming at specific targets here, either), but again, list
>> owner
>> discretion. *SMILE*
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "joe harcz" <michiganadapt at peoplepc.com>
>> To: <lras at sprynet.com>; "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 10:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] ACB members in NFB
>>
>>
>>> iS nfb WILLING TO FOREGOE FEDERAL FUNDING? hARDLY, AND THUS THEY MUST
>>> COMPLY
>>> WITH DUEL MEMBERSHIP.
>>>
>>> aND THEY CANNOT BUMP ME FROM THESE LIST SERVES EITHER LEGALLY!
>>>
>>> jOE
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Lloyd Rasmussen" <lras at sprynet.com>
>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 11:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] ACB members in NFB
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would take this question up with your state president in Arizona.  It
>>>> would depend on what this person did or continues to do in support of
>>>> the
>>>> ACB, particularly regarding areas where the NFB and ACB don't agree on
>>>> the
>>>> national or local level.  We have our policy against dual memberships,
>>>> and
>>>> I
>>>> believe it is a sound policy.  On the other hand, we need to be a
>>>> welcoming
>>>> organization, not treating everybody with suspicion.  The important
>>>> thing
>>>> is
>>>> that we have a huge amount of work in front of us to change what it
>>>> means
>>>> to
>>>> be blind.
>>>>
>>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, Maryland
>>>> Home:  http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>>>> Work:  http://www.loc.gov/nls
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of S Farwaneh
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 9:51 PM
>>>>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] ACB members in NFB
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a question about how to best accommodate active ACB members who
>>>>> try
>>>>> to join the NFB. My understanding is that NFB policies prohibit 
>>>>> ACB/NFB
>>>>> dual membership. We have an ACB member in our midst who was informed
>>>>> about
>>>>> the policy, whereupon she denied her affiliation with ACB. We have
>>>>> philosophical differences concerning this issue: Some members believe
>>>>> that
>>>>> we should take her word for it and allow her to participate fully in
>>>>> NFB
>>>>> activities in the hopes that she will ultimately become a functional
>>>>> member; others request that her terminated affiliation with ACB be
>>>>> verified
>>>>> to  ensure that our chapters are not infiltrated by ACB members who
>>>>> believe
>>>>> that their mission is to 'reform' the NFB.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if you have a similar experience to report, and what the best
>>>>> strategy is to expand our membership without jeopardizing our
>>>>> philosophy
>>>>> and policies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Samira Farwaneh
>>>>> Tucson Chapter, NFBA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Samira Farwaneh
>>>>> Assistant Professor, Arabic Language and Linguistics
>>>>> Department of Near Eastern Studies
>>>>> Department of Linguistics
>>>>> Second Language Acquisition and Teaching Program
>>>>> Louise Foucar Marshall Building
>>>>> 845 N Park Avenue, Room 440
>>>>> PO BOX 210158B
>>>>> University of Arizona
>>>>> Tucson, Arizona  85721-0158B
>>>>> Phone: (520) 621-8629 Or 621-8012
>>>>> Fax: (520) 621-2333
>>>>
>>>>
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