[Nfb-seniors] Special Accommodations. Was: Re: (no subject)

[Jane Withers]

Haven't we been paying taxes for years for special accommodations for the 
deaf?
It might be nice to get something in return for our group this time.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
To: "NFB Senior Division list" <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] Special Accommodations. Was: Re: (no subject)


>
> Dear David,
>
> Iagree with your post to this man in Hawaii,
> He doesn't know what he is talking about and he has twisted everything 
> into
> a cocked hat.
> I am a senior and I have allot of things to put after my name too as to my
> expertise too, but them most know me already.
> I would just say that this man is in the wrong place spouting 
> misinformation
> and trying to blame the NFB for everything that , in his opinion, is wrong
> with the world and the NFB is standing in the way of that better world for
> him.
>
> I will leave him with an old Hawaiian saying.
> "May Palai pay your home a visit and take you with her when she leaves."
>
> David Evans, NFBF
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> To: "NFB Senior Division list" <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] Special Accommodations. Was: Re: (no subject)
>
>
>> While my better judgment tells me I shouldn't respond I am going to
>> anyway.
>>
>> First, if we are so crazy, why are you on one of our lists.
>>
>> Secondly, you have simplified and distorted many of our positions,
>> presumably to further your own political agenda.  It is a falsehood
>> to say that we ask for no accommodations and don't want anyone to
>> accept any.  On the whole we do believe in only asking for those
>> accommodations that are truly necessary, and different people and
>> different groups will disagree about what is necessary.  However,
>> this is not a basis for your ridiculous statements.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 05:55 PM 2/14/2008, you wrote:
>>
>>>Dr. Heinz-Guenther Pink, Advocate and program evaluator for the blind,
>>>deaf
>>>and handicapped, Member: NFB Communication Council, and ATRC Advisory
>>>Council of the State, Member of Senator Chun Oakland's Deaf-Blind Task
>>>Force, Founder: Computer College of Hawaii since 1963, said, "If we 
>>>really
>>>are the voice of the blind then let's all lobby for free high speed
>>>internet
>>>access and not say that it is not our job.  Without free high speed 
>>>access
>>>to the internet the free cameras from Sorensen are useless.  So let's all
>>>lobby."
>>>
>>>
>>>I really can't believe I'm hearing such a thing from an NFB member on an
>>>NFB
>>>list.  Ask the government to subsidize us?  Rediculous!  Absurd!  Not to
>>>mention that such a thing goes entirely against everything the NFB stands
>>>for.
>>>
>>>Being blind, we need to continue to perpetuate the myth that we are just
>>>like any sighted person, without requiring any special accomodations.
>>>After
>>>all, that's why the NFB insisted that we, the blind, stop being able to
>>>ride
>>>city busses for free, in spite of the fact that we are experiencing an 
>>>80%
>>>unemployment / underemployment rate.  To continue to keep doing so would
>>>make the blind appear to be somehow different from those who can see,
>>>perhaps requiring some kind of special treatment.  And nothing could be
>>>further from the truth, could it?
>>>
>>>Just as good as any sighted person?  No way!  We're better than sighted
>>>people, able to do everything they can do, and we can do it better than
>>>them, too!
>>>
>>>That's why our NFB is constantly doing everything it can to ensure that 
>>>no
>>>blind person should ever have any kind of special priviliges or
>>>advantages,
>>>like being able to rely on audible crossing signals to tell us when the
>>>light is in our favor.  Of course we can figure that out on our own.  And
>>>those who can't, will, of course, be run over and killed, never having to
>>>ever worry about such things again.  And without such stupid, blind
>>>people
>>>running around any longer, the rest of us will seem a lot smarter, won't
>>>we?
>>>
>>>I suggest that the NFB begin a new campaign, once again trying to prove
>>>that
>>>being blind is better than being sighted.
>>>
>>>In the meantime, shouldn't we b blinding sighted people, using our canes
>>>to
>>>poke them all in their eyes, similar to what Louis Braille did to 
>>>himself,
>>>with an awl in his father's workshop?  Blinding himself.  Great idea!
>>>What
>>>a role model for all of us!
>>>
>>>The only problem is that he stopped with blinding only himself, and not
>>>everybody else around him as well.  But back then, I guess there wasn't 
>>>an
>>>NFB to suggest such things to them yet, was there?
>>>
>>>If nothing else, we should at least be consistant.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> David Andrews and white cane Harry.
>>
>>
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