[Nfb-seniors] Special Accommodations. Was: Re: (no subject)

David Evans drevans at bellsouth.net
Fri Feb 15 10:51:43 CST 2008


Dear David,

Iagree with your post to this man in Hawaii,
He doesn't know what he is talking about and he has twisted everything into 
a cocked hat.
I am a senior and I have allot of things to put after my name too as to my 
expertise too, but them most know me already.
I would just say that this man is in the wrong place spouting misinformation 
and trying to blame the NFB for everything that , in his opinion, is wrong 
with the world and the NFB is standing in the way of that better world for 
him.

I will leave him with an old Hawaiian saying.
"May Palai pay your home a visit and take you with her when she leaves."

David Evans, NFBF
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "NFB Senior Division list" <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] Special Accommodations. Was: Re: (no subject)


> While my better judgment tells me I shouldn't respond I am going to 
> anyway.
>
> First, if we are so crazy, why are you on one of our lists.
>
> Secondly, you have simplified and distorted many of our positions,
> presumably to further your own political agenda.  It is a falsehood
> to say that we ask for no accommodations and don't want anyone to
> accept any.  On the whole we do believe in only asking for those
> accommodations that are truly necessary, and different people and
> different groups will disagree about what is necessary.  However,
> this is not a basis for your ridiculous statements.
>
> Dave
>
> At 05:55 PM 2/14/2008, you wrote:
>
>>Dr. Heinz-Guenther Pink, Advocate and program evaluator for the blind, 
>>deaf
>>and handicapped, Member: NFB Communication Council, and ATRC Advisory
>>Council of the State, Member of Senator Chun Oakland's Deaf-Blind Task
>>Force, Founder: Computer College of Hawaii since 1963, said, "If we really
>>are the voice of the blind then let's all lobby for free high speed 
>>internet
>>access and not say that it is not our job.  Without free high speed access
>>to the internet the free cameras from Sorensen are useless.  So let's all
>>lobby."
>>
>>
>>I really can't believe I'm hearing such a thing from an NFB member on an 
>>NFB
>>list.  Ask the government to subsidize us?  Rediculous!  Absurd!  Not to
>>mention that such a thing goes entirely against everything the NFB stands
>>for.
>>
>>Being blind, we need to continue to perpetuate the myth that we are just
>>like any sighted person, without requiring any special accomodations. 
>>After
>>all, that's why the NFB insisted that we, the blind, stop being able to 
>>ride
>>city busses for free, in spite of the fact that we are experiencing an 80%
>>unemployment / underemployment rate.  To continue to keep doing so would
>>make the blind appear to be somehow different from those who can see,
>>perhaps requiring some kind of special treatment.  And nothing could be
>>further from the truth, could it?
>>
>>Just as good as any sighted person?  No way!  We're better than sighted
>>people, able to do everything they can do, and we can do it better than
>>them, too!
>>
>>That's why our NFB is constantly doing everything it can to ensure that no
>>blind person should ever have any kind of special priviliges or 
>>advantages,
>>like being able to rely on audible crossing signals to tell us when the
>>light is in our favor.  Of course we can figure that out on our own.  And
>>those who can't, will, of course, be run over and killed, never having to
>>ever worry about such things again.  And without such stupid, blind 
>>people
>>running around any longer, the rest of us will seem a lot smarter, won't 
>>we?
>>
>>I suggest that the NFB begin a new campaign, once again trying to prove 
>>that
>>being blind is better than being sighted.
>>
>>In the meantime, shouldn't we b blinding sighted people, using our canes 
>>to
>>poke them all in their eyes, similar to what Louis Braille did to himself,
>>with an awl in his father's workshop?  Blinding himself.  Great idea! 
>>What
>>a role model for all of us!
>>
>>The only problem is that he stopped with blinding only himself, and not
>>everybody else around him as well.  But back then, I guess there wasn't an
>>NFB to suggest such things to them yet, was there?
>>
>>If nothing else, we should at least be consistant.
>>
>>
>>
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>
> David Andrews and white cane Harry.
>
>
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