[Nfb-krafters-korner] continental knitting

slery slerythema at insightbb.com
Mon May 26 21:38:57 CDT 2008 

Okay, here is one for you.  I have a pattern that is in all garter stitch
but they recommend slipping the first stitch of the row purl wise.  Does it
make a difference in this situation?  ie as long as I'm knitting continental
and I slip purl wise continental.

I have another question but I'll need to actually copy the pattern here to
get an answer.

Cindy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
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> g 
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at n
> fbnet.org] On Behalf Of eileen scrivani
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 8:22 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Friday's questions/
> 
> 
> Cindy:
> 
> If you have knitting questions, just ask.  However, I've seen 
> patterns that 
> are written  by Americans and others that have been written 
> by companies in 
> the U.K.  Some of the terminology can be different, but easy 
> enough to 
> decipher.  Where the pattern is written, though,is unrelated 
> to the style in 
> which you hold your yarn, i.e. either continental or English style.
> 
> I have ordered Braille knitting books/patterns from the Royal 
> National 
> Institute for the Blind in England and some of the problems I have 
> encountered are converting measurements/gauges from 
> centimeteres to inches, 
> needle size conversions (you can find charts on line that 
> will tell you) and 
> the English have a way of refering back to points in patterns 
> that are 
> indicated by varying numbers of asterisks in strings in the 
> text.  In some I 
> have located on the internet, I've deleted out the asterisks, 
> just thinking 
> they were a part of formatting to make it pretty, not realizing their 
> importance to the pattern directions.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "slery" <slerythema at insightbb.com>
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" 
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 6:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Friday's questions/
> 
> 
> Eileen,
> 
> I may contact you for pointers on knitting.  I have been 
> teaching myself knitting (as a mostly blind person) and the 
> continental is the easiest for me to be able to tell exactly 
> what I am doing.  Sometimes, I get a little confused, since 
> I'm new, when figuring something out on a pattern that they 
> are explaining and I know they are using English style 
> instead of continental.
> 
> Cindy
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > nfb-krafters-korner-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.or
> > g [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at n
> > fbnet.org] On Behalf Of eileen scrivani
> > Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 10:13 AM
> > To: List for blind crafters and artists
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Friday's questions/
> >
> >
> > Hi Laurie:
> >
> > This is so great!! I'm tickled to death!  I have an
> > assortment of colors of
> > size 6 seed beads that are round, a few size 6 bugle beads,
> > and a few drop
> > seed beads that I purchased with the intention of using in my
> > knitting.
> > This was what got me into bead stringing.  The day I went in
> > to my local
> > bead store to get the seed beads and beading needle, is when
> > I was bit by
> > the bug and signed up for a basic stringing class.  Ever
> > since I've been
> > wanting to get into a weaving course, but in addition to
> > never working with
> > my schedule, they are exceptionally expensive!
> >
> > I've read some basic directions of right angle weave on a web
> > site, but am
> > just not getting it.
> >
> > Last year, I offered to teach any blind/visually impaired
> > knitter in NJ who
> > could get to where I live, free knitting lessons, provided
> > they provided
> > their own yarn and needles.  Only 1 person took me up on the
> > offer, but it
> > didn't go well since she knits by throwing the yarn with her
> > right hand (the
> > technique used when she could see) and I use my left hand  in
> > more of a
> > continental style.  While I was able to give her a few
> > helpful pointers for
> > knitting "blind", I haven't been able to give her much advice
> > on how to
> > insure she's actually knitted a stitch before dropping it off
> > the needle or
> > else just slipping stitches from left to right with not
> > working them.  I
> > became frustrated since I could not figure out the best way
> > to explain &
> > instruct her.  To this day, she's still having trouble.  I
> > guess its a good
> > sign that she hasn't given it up.  Just wish I could figure
> > out what she's
> > doing incorrectly  or a method that would make it easier for her.
> >
> > keep me posted when you're ready to give beading a try.
> > thanks again.
> >
> > Eileen
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Laurie Porter" <freespirit1 at tds.net>
> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> > <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Friday's questions/
> >
> >
> > sure I could do some teaching. I can walk you through some of
> > the basics of seed beading. I can put something together and
> > make it perhaps a combination of live chat, and or email
> > instructions. A few years ago, I took an email beading
> > course. There was no live chat either via phone or computer,
> > but for somebody just starting out, some live chat would be
> > very helpful. I can put some email items together, a list of
> > what you'll need, and some basic stitch instructions that you
> > can refer to as we're talking and that would help to clarify
> > any place where you get stuck. The lessons could either be
> > individual or in a group. It could be one of the things we
> > can do with one of our phone chat nights. Yes, I think I
> > could do this. Thanks for asking. This is a good idea. You've
> > gotten me inspired.  Who knows, maybe this kind of thing can
> > morph into something that others can do if we wanted to teach
> > other things like crocheting, or knitting, etc.  It is good
> > to be able to put your fingers on a finished pieece, but I
> > was mostly self-taught and I found I could learn something
> > without having to see a finished piece. So, I think this
> > could be a good idea if it is organized and mapped out. I've
> > been beading for over 12 years now, and I have taught a
> > basics beading class at a program called "Women's Art Space",
> > and three of the six students I taught are still beading. So,
> > I'll put my thinking caps on and get this thing somewhat
> > organized. I will also have a chance to record confrence
> > calls that can be played back on any computer as an mp3 file.
> > Yes, there is so much we could do.
> >
> >
> > Peace,
> >
> > Laurie----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "eileen scrivani" <etflemin at ix.netcom.com>
> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> > <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Friday's questions/
> >
> >
> > > Hi Laurie:
> > >
> > > i'm wondering if there is any way you could teach some of the
> > > introductory methods/techniques of either doing beading on
> > a loom or
> > > bead weaving. This is something I've been so wanting to
> > learn, but its
> > > very difficult to locate
> > > a person/shop that teaches it.  Please give it some serious
> > consideration
> > > and let me know if you think we could work some way of
> > working this out
> > > long-distance!  I'd be thrilled to learn any basic stuff I
> > could play with
> > > at home.  I have seed beads and a bead needle here now, and
> > am guessing I
> > > could use some sewing thread for starting, but you can let
> > me know what
> > > you
> > > think.
> > >
> > > I'm planning on calling in to the chat later on so hope to
> > get to talk
> > > with you then.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Eileen
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Laurie Porter" <freespirit1 at tds.net>
> > > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> > <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 10:10 PM
> > > Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Friday's questions/
> > >
> > >
> > >        Yes, I am the one who posed this question. I'll 
> never forget
> > > the day I learned about doing beadwork. I was living in
> > 'chicago and
> > > getting ready to move to Madison wI which is a somewhat 
> progressive
> > > town with an insatiable artistic appatite. I bought some yarn and
> > > learned to do a little
> > > cross stitch. I loved walking down state street in my new
> > town among those
> > > who played music, painted sidewalk murals,and the endless 
> display of
> > > street
> > > vendors selling everything from handmade blankets to
> > jewlery. I dusted off
> > > my old guitar, and made friends among the strete musicians,
> > played at open
> > > mic's in the many coffee houses. Everywhere you went there
> > was an art
> > > opening of some kind.  One spring day I was on my way home
> > from a job
> > > interview, and I stopped to talk with some of my friends
> > just passing
> > > through when a lady came up to me and asked to do a tarrot
> > card reading
> > > for
> > > me.
> > > She mentioned that the cards showed that someday I would be
> > making and
> > > selling jewlery. I didn't think very much about this. I saw
> > that it seemed
> > > that everybody around me made some kind of jewlery of some
> > sort, and I
> > > have
> > > always had a flare for taking the road less traveled of non
> > conformism. In
> > > other words, just because I'm in Rome, doesn't mean I have
> > to do what the
> > > Romans do. I thought she was nuts,  because I had no desire
> > to be another
> > > jewlery maker.
> > >
> > > About a year later, I met Debbie. There are times in one's
> > life where
> > > inspiration hits you like a ton of bricks with something so
> > small and
> > > so insignificant that it could just as easily be passed by
> > if one is
> > > not paying attention. She had  amulet purse around her 
> neck and she
> > > had beaded ornaments and hair extensions. I saw her purse
> > and asked if
> > > I could touch it. She took it off her neck and handed it to
> > me. I had
> > > never seen anything
> > > like it in my life. This was a small purse made entirely of
> > thread and
> > > seed
> > > beads
> > >
> > > there are some people who are so talented that they create
> > beautiful
> > > works of art with little or no effort. I am  not one of
> > those people.
> > > I admire people who can do this. She always wanted to 
> learn musicof
> > > some kind, and she had to learn how to listen to music
> > differently and
> > > develop an ear. Concepts were frustratingly difficult
> > > for her to understand. for me, singing and playing
> > instruments came as
> > > natural to me as her art work came to her. I asked her to
> > teach me to make
> > > beaded purses, and we both set onto the task of adapting
> > the patterns and
> > > colors into a word map and enlarging the graphs so I could
> > see them with a
> > > minimm of eye strain. I started out on a beading loom,
> > which, if you're
> > > not
> > > familliar with the technique it is a simple flat loom with
> > bolts on both
> > > ends and coiled springs that hold the worp threads in
> > place. You then
> > > attach
> > > weft or working thread tieing to the left most worp thread.
> > You then put
> > > on
> > > a needle and pick up the beads for the first row and lay
> > the thread across
> > > underneath the worp and then push the beads up with your
> > index finger so
> > > that they pop up between  the worp threads. You then take
> > your needle and
> > > bring it through the !
> > > beads again in the same direction as before. You continue
> > each row going
> > > from left to right and right to left. The challenge for me
> > was what to do
> > > with all the worp threads at thebottom  of the piece. 
> This part was
> > > challenging for everyone to do and it is why beading
> > looming isn't the
> > > preferred technique. As a blind  person, I had to figure
> > out the thread
> > > path
> > > for weaving each worp thread into the piece. Once the beads
> > are in place,
> > > it's not possible to feel it  between beads. The path
> > should be as strong
> > > as
> > > it could be which means passing through beads several
> > times. After a few
> > > loomed pieces, I began learning off- loom beadwork
> > stitches. When I first
> > > began learning be    adwork, I had 20/200 vision and at the
> > time it was
> > > enough to match colors that went well together. Now that I
> > am totally
> > > blind,
> > > I was bored with just row after row of the same beads so, 
> I started
> > > incorporating different sizes and shapes of beads for
> > contrast. This is
> > > not
> > > as easy to do when you are weaving !
> > > seed beads, because interlocking rows of beads is 
> essential for the
> > > structural integrity of the piece.
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