[Nfb-krafters-korner] Name of division?

[Rovig, Lorraine]

People that sell their wares at our Medieval events are called
merchants. <smile>  The guilds of the Medieval era considered all
experts to be craftsmen (there were a few acknowledged craftswomen).  To
name levels of skill, the ranks were called, apprentice, journeyman, and
then the highest rank within a guild, master, as in "master of his
trade" or "mistress of her trade" but that sounds very odd in modern
context, even unsavory when applied to women. Somehow I do not see the
name for this group being the National Federation of the Blind Combined
Craftsmen's Guild.
Lorraine

-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of slery
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 12:55 AM
To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Name of division?

Dave,

Artists would be considered fine arts.  While there are some blind ones
out there, I have not found very many.  My first bachelors degree is in
photography and I still do that as I am able.  Drawing on the other
hand, I would like to find ways to do making it tactile.  This is the
group that I came to seeking advice in this area.  I have not been able
to find other blind artists that draw.  The ones that I know personally,
work in ceramics and I can definitely see that fitting in with this
group.

This group has also inspired me to begin learning how to knit.  As an
artist, I don't see there being a difference between crafters.  It would
be nice if we could come up with a more sophisticated sounding name.
Arts and Crafts is inclusive but I also see the point someone already
made about it sounding like an elementary school class.  

Lorraine, what does the SCA consider people that sell their wares at Ren
festivals?

Cindy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David 
> Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 5:24 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Name of division?
> 
> 
> I agree with Mike.  I also want to raise another point.
> 
> You are talking about krafters and artists.  Artists are very 
> different from crafts.  Are there artists here, that is painters, 
> sculptors etc.  That is very different from people who quilt, sew, 
> knit, scrap book etc.  I am not making a value judgment, just do you 
> really mean to include artists -- and are arts people going to want to

> set up their own division.
> 
> Dave
> 
> At 09:16 AM 1/20/2008, you wrote:
> >I agree. However, with the profusion of divisions within NFB these 
> >days, it becomes increasingly difficult IMO to set out
> rational lines
> >of division between functions and purposes of divisions and the 
> >profusion will turn to confusion IMO if divisions don't have *very* 
> >distinct names, each of which does not duplicate parts of names of 
> >other divisions except, of course, for all having National
> Federation
> >of the Blind in their names -- which they all should! <g>
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
> >   To: List for blind crafters and artists
> >   Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 5:50 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Name of division?
> >
> >
> >   Isn't performing arts division, music and action.  If so. 
> They have
> >   nothing to do with crafts.  They are talents.
> >
> >   Terry Powers
> >
> >
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: Mike Freeman [mailto:k7uij at panix.com]
> >   Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:33 PM
> >   To: List for blind crafters and artists
> >   Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Name of division?
> >
> >   Wouldn't that conflict with the Performing Arts Division?
> >
> >   Mike
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From: Rovig, Lorraine
> >     To: List for blind crafters and artists
> >     Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:12 AM
> >     Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Name of division?
> >
> >
> >     How about: NFB Crafters and Artists Division?
> >     Lorraine
> >
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >     [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Powers,
> >     Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
> >     Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:29 AM
> >     To: List for blind crafters and artists
> >     Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] OK OK OK
> >
> >     Lorraine;
> >     Are you talking about the site or our title as a devision?
> >     As a devision,
> >     NFB Crafters Division sounds nice.  It is short and and
> inclusive.
> >     Terry Powers
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