[nabs-l] DSB delaying needed equipment
Briley Pollard
brileyp at gmail.com
Sun Jul 25 03:31:22 UTC 2010
A notetaker and a netbook do not serve the same purpose since they don't perform the same functions. They fulfill separate but equally important educational needs.
Briley
On Jul 24, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
> Briley,
> A rehab agency will not buy duplicate equipment serving the same purpose especially in tight budget times. A
> laptop with braille display or
> braille notetaker serve the same purpose; both provide that braille output Jewel said would be most conducive to learning.
> So no they won't buy a laptop with braille display and braille notetaker. However I have heard of VR clients receiving a braille notetaker and laptop, but nothing external with the laptop such as braille display. If you have a braille notetaker you can use its display
> hooked up to a computer and I imagine you could hook it to a laptop too.
> Having equipment serving the same function is hard to justify.
>
> Ashley
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Briley Pollard" <brileyp at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] DSB delaying needed equipment
>
>
> If you will be most successful with a notetaker and lap-top, they will get you both. It won't be difficult to justify. Stick to your guns. You'll get what you need.
>
> Briley
> On Jul 24, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Jewel S. wrote:
>
>> DSB told me that they would get either a Braille notetaker OR a laptop
>> with a refreshable Braille display, but not both.
>>
>> ~Jewel
>>
>> On 7/24/10, Arielle Silverman <nabs.president at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Jewel,
>>>
>>> I wonder if you can ask for a laptop with JAWS, a Braille notetaker,
>>> and a scanner. That's the setup I use and I've been very pleased with
>>> it-electronic books and notes can be read on the Braille Note's
>>> Braille display, while the laptop can be used for the third-party
>>> applications you described. I tried bringing a Braille embosser to
>>> college my first year, and I found myself never using it since I had
>>> Braille access on my notetaker and, as you mention, Brailling
>>> textbooks yourself is quite labor-intensive.
>>>
>>> Best of luck!
>>> Arielle
>>>
>>> On 7/24/10, Jewel S. <herekittykat2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Thanks for that clarification. I requested either a Braille notetaker
>>>> (such as the PacMate or BrailleNote) or a laptop with a refreshable
>>>> Braille display. The person who did the initial assessment thought a
>>>> laptop and refreshable Braille display would be a better set-up than a
>>>> Braille notetaker for flexibility, ease of use, and usability with
>>>> third-party programs such as my DaybyDay planning calendar. I agreed
>>>> with this assessment, though if they gave me a Braille notetaker
>>>> instead of the laptop-Braille display combination, I would not turn it
>>>> down and would work with it I think about equally as well. My concern
>>>> is that if I get a laptop, I must have a way to read my books and
>>>> notes in Braille. The embosser will help with this, but putting my
>>>> textbooks and notes all in hard-copy Braille is not feasible, I think,
>>>> and a waste of paper. But I simply cannot listen to long segments of
>>>> audio, especially when I'm supposed to be listening to the professor
>>>> (I know I can read the book ahead of time, but in my Spanish class, at
>>>> least, we will be doing a lot of reading aloud).
>>>>
>>>> I'm hoping to be on my way with getting this resolved Monday. It's
>>>> really frustrating and I'm impatient about the weekend.
>>>>
>>>> I do appreciate everyone's input on this. It has given me many things
>>>> to think about and some encouragement that I should be getting what I
>>>> need for school.
>>>>
>>>> ~Jewel
>>>>
>>>> On 7/24/10, Arielle Silverman <nabs.president at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think what I meant by "luxury" is the large Braille display that
>>>>> connects to a computer. While these are ideal, I think you can get
>>>>> almost the same degree of access with a portable Braille notetaker
>>>>> with a Braille display, such as a Braille Note or Pac Mate, and I
>>>>> believe portable notetakers are also cheaper than Braille display
>>>>> computer hookups. Jewel, I don't remember if you had requested both a
>>>>> Braille notetaker and a Braille display in your original equipment
>>>>> setup, but if you find yourself needing to negotiate, the Braille
>>>>> notetaker will give you lots of Braille functionality whether you
>>>>> choose to read your books on it or listen and take notes in Braille,
>>>>> as I do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/23/10, Jewel S. <herekittykat2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you for this resource. I wil lread it; it looks good. I can
>>>>>> quote it in my complaints, I'm sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~Jewel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/23/10, Briley Pollard <brileyp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi again,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This resource is long, but really highlights Voc Rehab's
>>>>>>> responsibilities
>>>>>>> with specific RSA situations. This should help you a great deal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.nls.org/vrron.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Briley
>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Jewel S. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is my feelings also. I do not think the refreshable Braille
>>>>>>>> display is a luxury, but an essential tool for my learning. I am a
>>>>>>>> visual and tactile learner, and have a lot of trouble learning by
>>>>>>>> audio teaching only. I often have to re-read what JAWS has read to me
>>>>>>>> several times, and have to rewind audio books if I have the least
>>>>>>>> distraction (such as someone making a comment to me or the radio or tv
>>>>>>>> or pretty much any background noise can distract me).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A quick update. They want to do an accessment (laptop or PDA). I'm
>>>>>>>> going to ask about justifying just getting the laptop, as I think
>>>>>>>> it'll be the easiest way to go (more compatibility with programs, more
>>>>>>>> connection with other students, less expensive for DSB, more versatile
>>>>>>>> in future programs that I purchase). The supervisor was not in today;
>>>>>>>> I will speak to him on Monday and get this all straightened out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~Jewel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/23/10, Briley Pollard <brileyp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just wanted to offer that I don't agree that a Braille display is a
>>>>>>>>> "luxury", and that you shouldn't push for Voc Rehab to provide it. Is
>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>> print a "luxury", for sighted students? No. If Braille is your
>>>>>>>>> preferred
>>>>>>>>> reading medium, you shouldn't be forced to just get by with only
>>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> that is not how you best learn. They would never send a sighted
>>>>>>>>> student
>>>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>>> to college and say, "Good luck getting by with no print books." Voc
>>>>>>>>> Rehab
>>>>>>>>> can provide this for you, and moving up the chain of command will
>>>>>>>>> achieve
>>>>>>>>> the quickest results. Every regional office has specific complaint
>>>>>>>>> procedures which you can request in writing from your councilor's
>>>>>>>>> manager.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just my thoughts,
>>>>>>>>> Briley
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jewel and all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is an old story that I've heard way too many times from
>>>>>>>>>> students.
>>>>>>>>>> Your counselor's actions (or non-actions) are ridiculous and
>>>>>>>>>> definitely need to be addressed with her supervisor(s). In the
>>>>>>>>>> meantime, though, I think it's important to come up with a plan B
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't involve DSB at all, at least while you're waiting. A few
>>>>>>>>>> ideas:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. With rehab, I'd focus on getting the computer and scanner. The
>>>>>>>>>> refreshable Braille display and embosser are nice, but they're
>>>>>>>>>> luxuries, not necessities, in my opinion. Asking for just a couple
>>>>>>>>>> pieces of equipment rather than the whole gamut may be less
>>>>>>>>>> complicated/bureaucratic.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Does your school have an office for blind/disabled students? If
>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> they very well might have equipment for loan, like computers, and
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> should have public-access scanners that you can walk in and use. If
>>>>>>>>>> not, find out if there's anywhere else on campus (like the bookstore
>>>>>>>>>> or library) where you can borrow or rent a computer for low or no
>>>>>>>>>> cost. Perhaps family members or friends might have extra computers
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> can borrow? Once you have the computer, you should be able to
>>>>>>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>>> a free open-source screen reader to use with it.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. The NFB has a technology loan program and your NFB affiliate
>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>> have one too. Call the NFB Braille and Technology Center at
>>>>>>>>>> 410-659-9314 for details. Of course borrowing equipment for free is
>>>>>>>>>> better than racking up interest, but it could be a last-resort,
>>>>>>>>>> temporary option.
>>>>>>>>>> 3. If you can't get a portable computer, see if any of the public
>>>>>>>>>> computers on your campus are accessible (all Mac's are out of the
>>>>>>>>>> box). What you may need to do in a pinch is use a voice recorder in
>>>>>>>>>> class and then use the public computer for assignments.
>>>>>>>>>> 4. Remember that
>>>>>>>>>> www.rfbd.org
>>>>>>>>>> provides books in audio format, and
>>>>>>>>>> www.bookshare.org
>>>>>>>>>> provides books for free in a text format that you can read on a
>>>>>>>>>> regular computer (either the public computer or a rented one).
>>>>>>>>>> 5. Don't forget that readers are low-tech and relatively cheap
>>>>>>>>>> (usually $7 per hour) and if your school has a community service
>>>>>>>>>> club,
>>>>>>>>>> you might be able to find volunteer readers. If rehab is
>>>>>>>>>> uncooperative, your school (either the disability resource center or
>>>>>>>>>> the department of your major) may be willing to help pay for
>>>>>>>>>> readers,
>>>>>>>>>> at least initially while you wait for equipment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In short, while you should definitely nag rehab to get you what you
>>>>>>>>>> need (especially the laptop, scanner, and perhaps an audio book
>>>>>>>>>> player
>>>>>>>>>> like a Stream), rehab isn't, and shouldn't be, your only option. I
>>>>>>>>>> think the only piece of equipment that's really mission-critical is
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> computer, and that can be either a personal computer or a public
>>>>>>>>>> computer. Even your local public library might have a public
>>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>> you can use. I'd recommend staying in your classes if at all
>>>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>>>> Textbooks can be read with readers (readers can even be students in
>>>>>>>>>> your classes, who have to read the books anyway), or with a public
>>>>>>>>>> scanner (which might be available in the library or DRC).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best of luck and please keep us posted on your progress.
>>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/22/10, William ODonnell <william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I would have to say that I agree with Joe on many of the points he
>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>> made.
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, keep some things “off record” with your councilor. I am
>>>>>>>>>>> referring
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> the suggestions of you purchasing a net book that you provided in
>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>> email. Remember the following approach: don’t ask, don’t tell or
>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> give any additional information than requested.
>>>>>>>>>>> In addition, always copy a supervisor when you’re documenting so
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> context
>>>>>>>>>>> of what you discuss is not altered or misrepresented at a later
>>>>>>>>>>> date.
>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, investigate whether or not your local independent living
>>>>>>>>>>> center
>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>> advocates that will speak on your behalf.
>>>>>>>>>>> Note: some colleges and universities have laptops or net books that
>>>>>>>>>>> disabled
>>>>>>>>>>> students can reserve from there DSS office for use during class.
>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>> regard
>>>>>>>>>>> to readers or reading services, some organizations for the blind as
>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> community centers have people from the community who volunteer who
>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>> assist you. In addition, check with your college or university to
>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>> you can post an add requesting for volunteers to assist you when
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> the essence and your accommodations/equipment is not available. I
>>>>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> following since it is a reality. Note: I do not want to discourage
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> scare
>>>>>>>>>>> you; however, throughout your college career, you will learn and
>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> you will need to liquidate all avenues since many times you will
>>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>> faulty services and accommodations while meeting important
>>>>>>>>>>> deadlines
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>> other student. You will need to be strong and always be your own
>>>>>>>>>>> advocate
>>>>>>>>>>> while never losing focus with your agenda.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --- On Thu, 7/22/10, Joe Orozco <jsorozco at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Orozco <jsorozco at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] DSB delaying needed equipment
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 11:30 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jewel,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I see online that North Carolina just started a new fiscal
>>>>>>>>>>>> year. This is
>>>>>>>>>>>> bad, because this is when agencies can afford to lapse a
>>>>>>>>>>>> little. If I were
>>>>>>>>>>>> you, and taking your budget into consideration, this is my
>>>>>>>>>>>> personal
>>>>>>>>>>>> recommendation:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Take Justin's suggestion and go straight to the director
>>>>>>>>>>>> of that field
>>>>>>>>>>>> office. It's not your job to ease this counselor into
>>>>>>>>>>>> her new position.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your first priority is getting what you need to be ready
>>>>>>>>>>>> for school. Put
>>>>>>>>>>>> your communications to the director in writing. Say
>>>>>>>>>>>> in your first e-mail
>>>>>>>>>>>> that you will follow up via telephone in a few days to talk
>>>>>>>>>>>> about what can
>>>>>>>>>>>> be done. Later, after your phone call, send another
>>>>>>>>>>>> e-mail summarizing what
>>>>>>>>>>>> was talked about. Always keep a written record of
>>>>>>>>>>>> your communications. In
>>>>>>>>>>>> the letter you should give a brief summary of the events to
>>>>>>>>>>>> this point, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would spend more time listing the equipment you need and
>>>>>>>>>>>> a good
>>>>>>>>>>>> justification for why you need them. This may
>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhat minimize the need
>>>>>>>>>>>> for an assessment if you can give concrete reasons for why
>>>>>>>>>>>> the products are
>>>>>>>>>>>> required. Also, rank your products in order of most
>>>>>>>>>>>> important. The Victor
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stream, for example, may be a necessity, but it could
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably go near or at
>>>>>>>>>>>> the bottom since your top priority is the ability to take
>>>>>>>>>>>> notes in class.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Locate the individual or office that handles technology
>>>>>>>>>>>> assessments. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> more people you have inquiring into your case, the better,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and even if they
>>>>>>>>>>>> say they need to hear from your counselor, when your
>>>>>>>>>>>> counselor calls the
>>>>>>>>>>>> people will be familiar with you and have more of an
>>>>>>>>>>>> incentive to act.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Talk to your NFB affiliate president. He or she
>>>>>>>>>>>> may know of someone
>>>>>>>>>>>> working in the agency who can look into your case.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The affiliate should
>>>>>>>>>>>> also prove to be a good advocate on your behalf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Locate your nearest Lions Club. They may be able
>>>>>>>>>>>> to step in and help
>>>>>>>>>>>> with the cost of a netbook. If you can get that, you
>>>>>>>>>>>> can use one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> free or reasonably priced screen readers while you wait for
>>>>>>>>>>>> your other
>>>>>>>>>>>> technology to arrive. The main thing is to get you
>>>>>>>>>>>> something for the first
>>>>>>>>>>>> day of class, and I think your Lions Club or Rotary Club
>>>>>>>>>>>> should be able to
>>>>>>>>>>>> generate $300 on your behalf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is, at least, a start. I'm in a bit of a rush
>>>>>>>>>>>> but can offer more later
>>>>>>>>>>>> if you're still in a bind. Hopefully others will
>>>>>>>>>>>> chime in as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best of luck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up
>>>>>>>>>>>> their sleeves,
>>>>>>>>>>>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at
>>>>>>>>>>>> all."--Sam Ewing
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Jewel S.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:06 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] DSB delaying needed equipment
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am having serious issues with DSB here in North Carolina.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I begin
>>>>>>>>>>>> classes August 16, and have been working toward getting
>>>>>>>>>>>> some needed
>>>>>>>>>>>> equipment. This equipment is a netbook with JAWS, a
>>>>>>>>>>>> refreshable
>>>>>>>>>>>> Braille display, a VictorStream Reader, a Juliette
>>>>>>>>>>>> embosser, a
>>>>>>>>>>>> scanner, OpenBook scanning program and Dusxbury
>>>>>>>>>>>> (spelling?), and JAWS
>>>>>>>>>>>> for my home computer. I have been working very hard on my
>>>>>>>>>>>> side to get
>>>>>>>>>>>> this done in time for classes. However, I was reassigned
>>>>>>>>>>>> recently to a
>>>>>>>>>>>> new VR counselor (by new, I mean green...this is her first
>>>>>>>>>>>> position).
>>>>>>>>>>>> She did not even know who the assessment person *was*, let
>>>>>>>>>>>> alone how
>>>>>>>>>>>> to do an assessment referral, so after I saw one person for
>>>>>>>>>>>> review of
>>>>>>>>>>>> my home computer and basic needs, she did nothing with
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> information, despite him having stated that I needed an
>>>>>>>>>>>> assessment
>>>>>>>>>>>> with a particular computer teacher. It was not until I
>>>>>>>>>>>> asked him what
>>>>>>>>>>>> the next step was again that he said that my counselor
>>>>>>>>>>>> should have set
>>>>>>>>>>>> up the assessment (when I had talked to him the first time,
>>>>>>>>>>>> he had
>>>>>>>>>>>> said that my VR counselor would see the referral sent and I
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed to
>>>>>>>>>>>> just wait for the referral to go through).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, because of my counselor's delay in getting the
>>>>>>>>>>>> referral done, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> paperwork has not even been submitted for my equipment. At
>>>>>>>>>>>> first, they
>>>>>>>>>>>> told me it would take two to three weeks to get the
>>>>>>>>>>>> equipment. Then
>>>>>>>>>>>> they said one month. Now they are saying that it could take
>>>>>>>>>>>> up to two
>>>>>>>>>>>> months!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Classes start August 16, and I do not have any of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> equipment I
>>>>>>>>>>>> need. The only method of note-taking I have (other than
>>>>>>>>>>>> getting a
>>>>>>>>>>>> notetaker to take notes for me, which I'd rather not) is my
>>>>>>>>>>>> slate and
>>>>>>>>>>>> stylus. With my physical problems, I can only use a slate
>>>>>>>>>>>> for a few
>>>>>>>>>>>> lines at a time before my wrist and arm begin to hurt very
>>>>>>>>>>>> badly, so I
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't see that as a possibility at all. I do not even have
>>>>>>>>>>>> a voice
>>>>>>>>>>>> recorder, though I am considering whether I have the funds
>>>>>>>>>>>> to purchase
>>>>>>>>>>>> one myself (I am on a very tight budget these days).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have suggested the solution of renting a laptop until my
>>>>>>>>>>>> equipment
>>>>>>>>>>>> comes in. However, my counselor seems to have taken that to
>>>>>>>>>>>> mean that
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am willing to buy a used laptop on my own. She has
>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested places
>>>>>>>>>>>> to purchase used laptops and said she will look into it
>>>>>>>>>>>> also. When I
>>>>>>>>>>>> asked her whether this would take the place of the laptop
>>>>>>>>>>>> promised me
>>>>>>>>>>>> by DSB, she didn't answer directly but told me that the
>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop I would
>>>>>>>>>>>> purchase would last me throughout my curriculum. But if
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's used, how
>>>>>>>>>>>> can she be so sure? And how does she expect me to pay for
>>>>>>>>>>>> such a
>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this appropriate action on the behlaf of my counselor?
>>>>>>>>>>>> SWhat should
>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to happen? If she is not doing things properly,
>>>>>>>>>>>> who should I
>>>>>>>>>>>> bring this up with?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said, classes start in a few weeks. I do not have a
>>>>>>>>>>>> way to record
>>>>>>>>>>>> the classes, type notes, read my books in class, or
>>>>>>>>>>>> complete
>>>>>>>>>>>> worksheets in class. I will basically be stuck relying on
>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>> students to take notes for me, read exercises to me, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> will not be
>>>>>>>>>>>> able to participate when the class reads the books. I might
>>>>>>>>>>>> as well
>>>>>>>>>>>> not even attend class, for all I will be able to do! From
>>>>>>>>>>>> what DSB is
>>>>>>>>>>>> telling me, it will be halfway through the semester before
>>>>>>>>>>>> I get any
>>>>>>>>>>>> of my needed equipment. Is the renting of a laptop a
>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable
>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodation while I wait, or should I drop these classes
>>>>>>>>>>>> and wait
>>>>>>>>>>>> until next semester? I will not be able to participate
>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriately
>>>>>>>>>>>> in class without even a laptop, and my grades will be
>>>>>>>>>>>> drastically
>>>>>>>>>>>> effected by this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any advice, please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jewel Shuping
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wake Tech Community College
>>>>>>>>>>>> Raleigh, NC
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Arielle Silverman
>>>>>>>>>> President, National Association of Blind Students
>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 602-502-2255
>>>>>>>>>> Email:
>>>>>>>>>> nabs.president at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> Website:
>>>>>>>>>> www.nabslink.org
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Arielle Silverman
>>>>> President, National Association of Blind Students
>>>>> Phone: 602-502-2255
>>>>> Email:
>>>>> nabs.president at gmail.com
>>>>> Website:
>>>>> www.nabslink.org
>>>>>
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>>> Arielle Silverman
>>> President, National Association of Blind Students
>>> Phone: 602-502-2255
>>> Email:
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