[musictlk] (WebBraille)

Thu Jun 21 07:32:40 CDT 2007

Hi Debra,

In a previous post, she gave you her email address.  Start a new 
message with her address in the address field.  Or she will send you 
a message, and you can reply on it as you have been doing here.

Hope to see you in Atlanta.--Linda Mentink
At 07:27 AM 6/21/2007, you wrote:
>How does one take this discussion off the list?
>
>Debra Baxley
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Sydney Walker Freedman
>Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:26 AM
>To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [musictlk] (WebBraille)
>
>I think because the discussion is only related to the book and not how it
>affects a blind, as opposed to a sighted student, we should take the
>discussion off list.  I wouldn't discuss my particular homework assignment
>or the book I was reading (music-relate or not) on the list.  Since we're
>essentially discussing your unique experiences and questions with the book
>and not how the book relates to blind musicians, I thik we should continue
>the discussion off of the list.  Again, my e-mail address is
>freedmas at stolaf.edu, and feel free to e-mail any time.
>
> > This textbook is required reading of all college musicians; whether blind
> > or
> > sighted.
> >
> > Debra
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of Cindy Ray
> > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:56 AM
> > To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [musictlk] (WebBraille)
> >
> > Actually, though, Linda is right. The two of you should carry on privately
> > and not fill our mail boxes with this material. It is scarcely
> > blind-musician
> > oriented conversation. That's just my thoughts on it.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Debra Baxley" <debrabaxley at bellsouth.net>
> > To: "'NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List'" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 3:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: [musictlk] (WebBraille)
> >
> >
> > We are referring to the book, A History Of Western Music by Donald J.
> > Grout;
> > and Claude V. Palisca.
> >
> > Debra Baxley
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of Linda Mentink
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:24 PM
> > To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [musictlk] (WebBraille)
> >
> > I believe this is WAY off topic!!
> > At 09:01 PM 6/20/2007, you wrote:
> >>Regarding the passage with the fowl language, you can just quote it and
> >>use asterisks so as not to write the inappropriate word(s).  So, for the
> >>word that's similar to darn, you would write d**n.  Or just write darn,
> >>and I'll know what you mean.
> >>
> >> > Thank you for the clarification.
> >> >
> >> > In my opinion, the foul language is too inappropriate to quote on the
> >> > website.
> >> >
> >> > Chapter 13:  "The Bourgeois ate the Ariostocracy, and the Ariostocracy
> > ate
> >> > the lower classes,".  Which statement leads me to believe that people
> > were
> >> > cannibalistic in that period of time.  Do I have a correct assumption?
> >> >
> >> > Debra Baxley
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On
> >> > Behalf Of Sydney Walker Freedman
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:35 AM
> >> > To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
> >> > Subject: Re: [musictlk] (WebBraille)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> I thought that you meant the plastic Braille display that goes
> >> >> underneath
> >> >> a
> >> >> computer; I know that the Braille Lite 40 has a built-in Braille
> >> >> display.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry about the confusion.  I should have been more clear.  As long as
> > you
> >> > have a device that will show Braille output (any sort of braille
> > display,
> >> > whether a separate hardware device or built-in to something else),
> >> i.e.
> >> > that will allow you to actually read the file in Braille, then you can
> > use
> >> > BRF files with no trouble.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I have more questions.  Acording to Chapter Thirteen, print page 545,
> >> >> were
> >> >> the people actually cannibalistic?
> >> >
> >> > I don't have my book with me at the moment.  Could you quote the
> > relevant
> >> > sentence or paragraph from the passage?
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> In Chapter Twenty, what does foul language have to do with music?
> >> Why
> >> >> did
> >> >> Igor Stravinsky use it in one of his quotations?
> >> >
> >> > He was probably simply using it as an expression, most likely to make
> >> a
> >> > point, just like people do today, and since he id directly quoted, the
> >> > quotation was not edited.  If you send me the quote, I could elaborate
> >> > more based on the context.  Also, on the subject of what fowl language
> > has
> >> > to do with music, I would say that it falls under the category of what
> >> > text/words/language have to do with music.  I can elaborate on this
> > point
> >> > if you would like.  Just let me know.
> >> >
> >> > A quick note:  it seems that you have many questions along the lines
> >> of
> >> > "what does x have to do with music?"  Music is not some mutually
> > exclusive
> >> > thing (i'm not saying you don't know what I'm about to say, I just
> > thought
> >> > I'd make a few notes).  It comes from and is influenced by the
> >> cultures
> >> > from which it comes, so it is affected by and affects other things in
> >> > those cultures and the world in general.  It may seem that music and x
> >> > thing don't go together, but if one thinks about it (and reads more
> > about
> >> > it), it turns out that they often do.  I could give some examples, but
> > you
> >> > PROBABLY know what I mean.
> >> >
> >> > i hope this helps.  Feel free to e-mail me any time.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Debra
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> >> On
> >> >> Behalf Of Sydney Walker Freedman
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:14 AM
> >> >> To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
> >> >> Subject: Re: [musictlk] (WebBraille)
> >> >>
> >> >> A Braille Lite 40 has a braille display on it (a 40-cell one :) ).
> >> >> That's
> >> >> why I said that it
> >> >> would work.
> >> >>
> >> >>> I do not have a Braille display.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Debra
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> >>> On
> >> >>> Behalf Of Sydney Walker Freedman
> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:50 PM
> >> >>> To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] (WebBraille)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> T
> >> >>>>at would work.  As long as you have a Braille display, your golden.
> > :)
> >> >>> h No.  A Braille Lite 40 is available.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Debra
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> From: musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> >>>> On
> >> >>>> Behalf Of Cindy Ray
> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:36 AM
> >> >>>> To: NFBnet Music Talk Mailing List
> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] (WebBraille)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Do you have a notetaker such as PacMate or MPower?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Cindy
> >> >>>>
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