[Mt-blind] The Coming Cris

Wed Oct 24 15:45:20 CDT 2007

Jim,

My reasons for posting this is the number of blind and visually impaired 
is only going to grow in number.  And that the price for assistive 
technology is extremely high in cost.  Our access to the world depends 
on having a computer, for email, for the news , to access information 
and to stay informed .  But not everyone can afford screen readers and 
screen magnifiers.   And when you purchase a program, it must be 
installed on only one machine, you can not carry it with you.  The 
programs that are currently being sold can not be accessed from a thumb 
drive and used, but not installed, on any computer that a person walks 
up to, in a library , in a friends home, at work or at any other 
location.  This message was not posted to promote any brand or type or 
manufacture of screen readers but to start people thinking how and where 
you want your technology to be, with you or stuck in your home.

Ted suggested a free program,

 "For a newly Blind individual who has any initiative, they can
download at no cost, except for the cost of computer etc.
        Just go to:  >WWW.screenreader.net "

and Jim Aldrich suggested

 "many here could benefit from System Access to go.  One can give it a 
free thirty day trial if they wish.  Go to:
http://www.satogo.com "

So, this discussion may have opened some doors for those who are looking for an alternative to the more commonly known products that are in the marketplace.

Just for your thoughts and comments.

Jerry Hutch

Jim Marks wrote:

>Hi Jerry,
>
>I wonder if you wouldn't mind explaining your thoughts behind why you
>forwarded this particular article to MT-Blind.  I am asking for your
>thoughts in the hope of generating some dialogue like we had at the recent
>Great Falls MAB Convention.  It would be good to discuss related issues, and
>your opinions are welcome, as are everyone's.  Thanks!
> 
>
>
>
>Jim Marks
>blind.grizzly at GMail.com 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mt-blind-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:mt-blind-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Jerry Hutch
>Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 2:53 PM
>To: Montana Association for the Blind List
>Subject: [Mt-blind] The Coming Cris
>
>
>
>Wednesday, October 17, 2007
>
>The Coming Crisis
>
>By Mike Calvo
>
>Doom and Gloom! There, we got it out. 
>
>Actually this article is about hope and promise and a better life for
>everyone, but the background is not very encouraging. And without the
>background, the discussion doesn't make much sense.
>
>Here's the basic premise. Vision loss and age are inextricably linked. There
>are eight million visually-impaired people in the U.S. and 80% are age fifty
>or greater. This shouldn't come as a big surprise. As we age our bodies
>deteriorate and the eyes are specifically vulnerable to diseases like:
> Macular degeneration
> Diabetic Retinopathy
> Glaucoma
> Cataracts
> Corneal opacity
>
>The current assessment is that 800,000 people age 65 and older in the U.S.
>are totally blind. By 2015 it will be 1.5 million and by 2030 it will be 2.4
>million. 
>
>The cause is simply the aging of the population. As the "Baby Boomers" hit
>retirement the graying population will increase dramatically and the
>prevalence of blindness will likewise increase. We can and are making great
>strides in attacking various causes of blindness, but we can't stop people
>from getting older. 
>
>Certainly everyone knows this "graying" is occurring. From AARP to Social
>Security there is a great deal of planning and marketing going on relative
>to the sharp growth anticipated among the nation's elderly. But there has
>not been a lot written about what this means to the nation's blind services
>structure. For the most part, and in most states, different organizations
>manage issues regarding the elderly and those pertaining to vocational
>rehab. But when it comes to dealing with the newly blind, many of the issues
>are the same and the resources in place are not sufficient to respond to the
>coming need. 
>
>As things stand today, seniors losing their vision are going to be
>hard-pressed to maintain their independence. And this is a real shame
>because today, with the availability of resources of all kinds over the
>Internet, there is no reason for a blind person not to live independently.
>The digital lifestyle means liberation for people with blindness and low
>vision and baby boomers, like no aging group before them, are well versed in
>its benefits. Yet the supporting agencies are not prepared to help them make
>this transition.
>
>What are the benefits? Here's a list we've compiled:
> Community: individuals can interact and share information and experiences
>with other like-minded individuals at will
> Awareness: The Internet provides nearly instant access to news and
>information of all kinds. People using this source of information are
>significantly better informed and aware of world events than those who do
>not have access.
> Information: The Internet is the best single reference source for
>information of all kinds. With the aid of a search engine, a user can access
>the vast library of government publications plus an even larger library of
>private information sources. There are few, if any, subjects that cannot be
>successfully researched via the Internet.
> Employment: Computer usage is virtually essential for any meaningful
>employment in the modern world. Via the Internet, persons can not only be
>employed but often work from their homes.
> Entrepreneurial activities: The Internet makes it possible for any
>individual to sell goods and/or services to a worldwide market.
> Education: A computer and computer skills are essential for modern
>education. Via the Internet, a person can pursue a wide range of educational
>opportunities ranging from acquisition of technical skills to completing
>high school, to acquiring a bachelor's degree, master's degree, and/or Ph.D.
>from accredited online universities.
> Entertainment: Via the computer and Internet one can enjoy virtually any
>desired entertainment from described DVS's or downloads of popular movies to
>thousands of Internet radio channels, to games of all types, and all manner
>of hobby-related forums. 
> Health services: Self-care, healthy living programs, health coaching and
>ask-the-doctor information is all available on the Web.
> Shopping: From necessities to luxuries, one can buy anything via the Web,
>all without leaving the comfort of one's home.
> Finance: Online banking, investing, loans - almost any financial activity
>can be carried out over the Web
> Creative arts: Writing and music are two creative activities that the blind
>can enjoy using digital technology. 
> Counseling: Online support groups are available for a wide range of issues
>from grief-management to depression to cancer survival.
> Spiritual: Whatever your path, the Web has resources to support you ranging
>from virtually all conventional religions to a huge array of less
>conventional spiritual paths. 
>
>The simple ability to stay connected to family and friends via e-mail is
>enough to make being online worth it to most seniors. Add Internet-based
>telephone services like Skype and people can stay connected to loved ones
>around the world, for peanuts. But today, in the world of conventional
>assistive technology, it costs the elderly person (or the supporting agency)
>several thousand dollars and weeks or months of study - with all the
>necessary transportation - just to be able to send and receive e-mail.
>That's insane.
>
>And it's unnecessary.
>
>Nationwide, blind services organizations march lockstep to the beat of
>conventional screen reader technology. That is their sole solution to blind
>accessibility and no matter the situation they apply it. As the saying goes,
>"when your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail." 
>
>But as good as conventional screen readers are, they are without exception
>complex and difficult to learn. They are expensive and they require weeks or
>months of training to achieve proficiency. Once proficient, a blind person
>can do amazing things. But most elderly people or new users lack the core
>technical skills to master conventional screen readers and agencies lack the
>resources to purchase the high priced software and training required.
>
>But in fact, for the cost of rehabilitating a single blind person with
>conventional screen reader technology, an agency can deliver full
>accessibility to four to six blind people who are not looking to become
>computer professionals. Assuming a conventional screen reader cost about
>$1,000 and requires about $3,000 in training for the user to achieve
>proficiency, Serotek's System Access Mobile cost $499 and a user can be
>trained in about two to ten hours. You do the math.
>
>Moreover, using Serotek's RIM (Remote Incident Manager) or Remote Training
>and Support the user can be trained over the Internet, with no need to
>travel and take up class room space. The service agency can provide
>one-to-one, on-screen tutoring with the trainer and the student both working
>from the comfort and convenience of their own homes.
>
>Logic would suggest that state agencies and local rehabilitation
>organizations would welcome tools like System Access Mobile and RIM with
>open arms. With them they can help more blind people for less money. How can
>they not be excited?
>
>But logic doesn't take into account inertia. The entire organization is
>structured for conventional screen readers. That's how budgets are
>developed; that's where training skills are concentrated. There may even be
>a vague fear that if it is that easy to give newly blind people
>accessibility, training jobs will be in danger. Of course, nothing could be
>further from the truth. Even with the six-fold (or greater) multiplier
>effect that System Access delivers, the demand will continue to exceed the
>supply as the population ages.
>
>Unfortunately, the person with the least say in this decision is the newly
>blind person. He or she basically gets what's he or she is given as decided
>by the professionals. The result is that people in need of accessibility
>tools are hugely underserved. A mere handful of blind people (perhaps eight
>to ten) end up with the ability to access the digital lifestyle out of every
>hundred or so who need accessibility help. And that is extraordinarily
>costly. A blind person without accessibility consumes far more resources in
>terms of personal care, medical care, social services, and welfare than a
>blind person with full access to the digital lifestyle. And, sadly, the
>person without access lives a much more enclosed life and is more apt to
>fall prey to depression. Without accessibility, blindness is a prison
>sentence; with it, it's a minor inconvenience.
>
>There is, of course, no incentive for the producers of conventional screen
>reader technology to make their products less expensive and easier to learn.
>This isn't a "free market" where they must compete head-to-head against
>alternate solutions. Rather it's a captive market where the buyer has no
>choice. The in-place infrastructure has a bias towards maintaining the
>status quo, even at the expense of the nation's ever growing population of
>newly blind elderly people. We on the outside can call for a level playing
>field, where consumers can make their own informed choices, but those who
>have control of the playing field have no interest in making this a fair
>contest.
>
>At Serotek we believe that when you can't win through evolution, it's time
>to start a revolution and we have one in the making. When an infrastructure
>does not serve the people it was created to serve, it's time to look for
>ways to make the infrastructure irrelevant. We have been pushing the
>technology envelope for six years and our latest product, System Access to
>Go, available directly over the Internet on demand, may be the catalyst for
>change.
>
>We are working with a number of people who have the interest of the
>individual blind person at heart. We are close to making an announcement
>that we believe will simply change the way accessibility happens - to the
>benefit of all. We invite you to stay tuned. But in the meantime, don't
>hesitate to rock the boat. Change won't happen unless we work to make it
>happen. "Information without accessibility is tyranny!" Where the heck is
>that tea?
>
>Posted by Mike Calvo at 6:51 AM
>
>
>http://blog.serotek.com/2007/10/coming-crisis.html
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Jim,
My reasons for posting this is the number of blind and visually impaired is only going to grow in number.  And that the price for assistive technology is extremely high in cost.  Our access to the world depends on having a computer, for email, for the news , to access information and to stay informed .  But not everyone can afford screen readers and screen magnifiers.   And when you purchase a program, it must be installed on only one machine, you can not carry it with you.  The programs that are currently being sold can not be accessed from a thumb drive and used, but not installed, on any computer that a person walks up to, in a library , in a friends home, at work or at any other location.  This message was not posted to promote any brand or type or manufacture of screen readers but to start people thinking how and where you want your technology to be, with you or stuck in your home.
Ted suggested a free program,
"For a newly Blind individual who has any initiative, they can download at no cost, except for the cost of computer etc. Just go to: > http://WWW.screenreader.net WWW.screenreader.net
"
and Jim Aldrich suggested
"many here could benefit from System Access to go. One can give it a free thirty day trial if they wish. Go to: http://www.satogo.com http://www.satogo.com "
So, this discussion may have opened some doors for those who are looking for an alternative to the more commonly known products that are in the marketplace. Just for your thoughts and comments. Jerry Hutch
Jim Marks wrote:
Hi Jerry, I wonder if you wouldn't mind explaining your thoughts behind why you forwarded this particular article to MT-Blind. I am asking for your thoughts in the hope of generating some dialogue like we had at the recent Great Falls MAB Convention. It would be good to discuss related issues, and your opinions are welcome, as are everyone's. Thanks! Jim Marks mailto:blind.grizzly at GMail.com blind.grizzly at GMail.com
-----Original Message----- From: mailto:mt-blind-bounces at nfbnet.org mt-blind-bounces at nfbnet.org
[ mailto:mt-blind-bounces at nfbnet.org mailto:mt-blind-bounces at nfbnet.org
] On Behalf Of Jerry Hutch Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 2:53 PM To: Montana Association for the Blind List Subject: [Mt-blind] The Coming Cris Wednesday, October 17, 2007 The Coming Crisis By Mike Calvo Doom and Gloom! There, we got it out. Actually this article is about hope and promise and a better life for everyone, but the background is not very encouraging. And without the background, the discussion doesn't make much sense. Here's the basic premise. Vision loss and age are inextricably linked. There are eight million visually-impaired people in the U.S. and 80% are age fifty or greater. This shouldn't come as a big surprise. As we age our bodies deteriorate and the eyes are specifically vulnerable to diseases like: Macular degeneration Diabetic Retinopathy Glaucoma Cataracts Corneal opacity The current assessment is that 800,000 people age 65 and older in the U.S. are totally blind. By 2015 it will be 1.5 million and by 2030 it will be 2.4 million. The cause is simply the aging of the population. As the "Baby Boomers" hit retirement the graying population will increase dramatically and the prevalence of blindness will likewise increase. We can and are making great strides in attacking various causes of blindness, but we can't stop people from getting older. Certainly everyone knows this "graying" is occurring. From AARP to Social Security there is a great deal of planning and marketing going on relative to the sharp growth anticipated among the nation's elderly. But there has not been a lot written about what this means to the nation's blind services structure. For the most part, and in most states, different organizations manage issues regarding the elderly and those pertaining to vocational rehab. But when it comes to dealing with the newly blind, many of the issues are the same and the resources in place are not sufficient to respond to the coming need. As things stand today, seniors losing their vision are going to be hard-pressed to maintain their independence. And this is a real shame because today, with the availability of resources of all kinds over the Internet, there is no reason for a blind person not to live independently. The digital lifestyle means liberation for people with blindness and low vision and baby boomers, like no aging group before them, are well versed in its benefits. Yet the supporting agencies are not prepared to help them make this transition. What are the benefits? Here's a list we've compiled: Community: individuals can interact and share information and experiences with other like-minded individuals at will Awareness: The Internet provides nearly instant access to news and information of all kinds. People using this source of information are significantly better informed and aware of world events than those who do not have access. Information: The Internet is the best single reference source for information of all kinds. With the aid of a search engine, a user can access the vast library of government publications plus an even larger library of private information sources. There are few, if any, subjects that cannot be successfully researched via the Internet. Employment: Computer usage is virtually essential for any meaningful employment in the modern world. Via the Internet, persons can not only be employed but often work from their homes. Entrepreneurial activities: The Internet makes it possible for any individual to sell goods and/or services to a worldwide market. Education: A computer and computer skills are essential for modern education. Via the Internet, a person can pursue a wide range of educational opportunities ranging from acquisition of technical skills to completing high school, to acquiring a bachelor's degree, master's degree, and/or Ph.D. from accredited online universities. Entertainment: Via the computer and Internet one can enjoy virtually any desired entertainment from described DVS's or downloads of popular movies to thousands of Internet radio channels, to games of all types, and all manner of hobby-related forums. Health services: Self-care, healthy living programs, health coaching and ask-the-doctor information is all available on the Web. Shopping: From necessities to luxuries, one can buy anything via the Web, all without leaving the comfort of one's home. Finance: Online banking, investing, loans - almost any financial activity can be carried out over the Web Creative arts: Writing and music are two creative activities that the blind can enjoy using digital technology. Counseling: Online support groups are available for a wide range of issues from grief-management to depression to cancer survival. Spiritual: Whatever your path, the Web has resources to support you ranging from virtually all conventional religions to a huge array of less conventional spiritual paths. The simple ability to stay connected to family and friends via e-mail is enough to make being online worth it to most seniors. Add Internet-based telephone services like Skype and people can stay connected to loved ones around the world, for peanuts. But today, in the world of conventional assistive technology, it costs the elderly person (or the supporting agency) several thousand dollars and weeks or months of study - with all the necessary transportation - just to be able to send and receive e-mail. That's insane. And it's unnecessary. Nationwide, blind services organizations march lockstep to the beat of conventional screen reader technology. That is their sole solution to blind accessibility and no matter the situation they apply it. As the saying goes, "when your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail." But as good as conventional screen readers are, they are without exception complex and difficult to learn. They are expensive and they require weeks or months of training to achieve proficiency. Once proficient, a blind person can do amazing things. But most elderly people or new users lack the core technical skills to master conventional screen readers and agencies lack the resources to purchase the high priced software and training required. But in fact, for the cost of rehabilitating a single blind person with conventional screen reader technology, an agency can deliver full accessibility to four to six blind people who are not looking to become computer professionals. Assuming a conventional screen reader cost about $1,000 and requires about $3,000 in training for the user to achieve proficiency, Serotek's System Access Mobile cost $499 and a user can be trained in about two to ten hours. You do the math. Moreover, using Serotek's RIM (Remote Incident Manager) or Remote Training and Support the user can be trained over the Internet, with no need to travel and take up class room space. The service agency can provide one-to-one, on-screen tutoring with the trainer and the student both working from the comfort and convenience of their own homes. Logic would suggest that state agencies and local rehabilitation organizations would welcome tools like System Access Mobile and RIM with open arms. With them they can help more blind people for less money. How can they not be excited? But logic doesn't take into account inertia. The entire organization is structured for conventional screen readers. That's how budgets are developed; that's where training skills are concentrated. There may even be a vague fear that if it is that easy to give newly blind people accessibility, training jobs will be in danger. Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. Even with the six-fold (or greater) multiplier effect that System Access delivers, the demand will continue to exceed the supply as the population ages. Unfortunately, the person with the least say in this decision is the newly blind person. He or she basically gets what's he or she is given as decided by the professionals. The result is that people in need of accessibility tools are hugely underserved. A mere handful of blind people (perhaps eight to ten) end up with the ability to access the digital lifestyle out of every hundred or so who need accessibility help. And that is extraordinarily costly. A blind person without accessibility consumes far more resources in terms of personal care, medical care, social services, and welfare than a blind person with full access to the digital lifestyle. And, sadly, the person without access lives a much more enclosed life and is more apt to fall prey to depression. Without accessibility, blindness is a prison sentence; with it, it's a minor inconvenience. There is, of course, no incentive for the producers of conventional screen reader technology to make their products less expensive and easier to learn. This isn't a "free market" where they must compete head-to-head against alternate solutions. Rather it's a captive market where the buyer has no choice. The in-place infrastructure has a bias towards maintaining the status quo, even at the expense of the nation's ever growing population of newly blind elderly people. We on the outside can call for a level playing field, where consumers can make their own informed choices, but those who have control of the playing field have no interest in making this a fair contest. At Serotek we believe that when you can't win through evolution, it's time to start a revolution and we have one in the making. When an infrastructure does not serve the people it was created to serve, it's time to look for ways to make the infrastructure irrelevant. We have been pushing the technology envelope for six years and our latest product, System Access to Go, available directly over the Internet on demand, may be the catalyst for change. We are working with a number of people who have the interest of the individual blind person at heart. We are close to making an announcement that we believe will simply change the way accessibility happens - to the benefit of all. We invite you to stay tuned. But in the meantime, don't hesitate to rock the boat. Change won't happen unless we work to make it happen. "Information without accessibility is tyranny!" Where the heck is that tea? Posted by Mike Calvo at 6:51 AM http://blog.serotek.com/2007/10/coming-crisis.html http://blog.serotek.com/2007/10/coming-crisis.html
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