[Mt-blind] KAYLA'S PROJECT

dmgina dmgina at qwest.net
Fri May 4 13:49:19 CDT 2007


I know it is hard to remember,
I come from Colorado and had no clue that there was anything here in Montana 
for any dog training.
This is a learning experience for me.
Yes I agree, that when a dog is trained correctly for a service dog, that is 
grate.
I not only want to learn more, but in order to do this I ask many questions.
I am wondering why the schools are not mentioned for any wheel chair 
training or for the deaf on any school training lists.
Even if they are small they are important.
Again, if any school was suggested for the blind, I would support this.
But not for wheel chairs or deaf.
Any other disability school.
What each person does is up to each person.
I respect this.
Thanks for replying.

I am feeling as if,
since all schools are asking for fund raising,
Then why can't I ask for fund raising for GDF.
Valid question correct?
I know what I wish to say, but never feel I can say it correctly for others 
to understand.
Just my thoughts.


--Dar
Every saint has a future,
Every sinner has a past
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Marks" <blind.grizzly at gmail.com>
To: "'Montana Association for the Blind List'" <mt-blind at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Mt-blind] KAYLA'S PROJECT


>I think the Carroll College project that Kayla is involved in limits itself
> to razing puppies before they go into formal training.  As others pointed
> out, there are several service dog training programs in Montana.  These
> programs are very small and are nothing like the guide dog schools most of
> us are familiar with.  Oftentimes, the local training programs consist of 
> a
> general animal trainer doing a program for one or two animal and people
> teams at a time.  Also, some people with disabilities train their own
> animals.  This is legitimate, although there is better credibility when
> animals are trained by people who know what they are doing.  The real 
> proof
> comes down to how the animal behaves, not in the process that led to the
> ultimate outcomes.  The state law that protects guide dogs also provides
> protections for service dogs for people with physical disabilities and for
> hearing dogs for people who are deaf or hard of hearing.  There are no 
> state
> protections for disability companion animals, such as animals that provide
> comfort for people with mental illnesses.  However, the Americans with
> Disabilities Act and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act, which are
> federal civil rights laws, require reasonable program modifications and
> accommodations for companion animals.  There certainly is an issue about 
> the
> vagueness of these animals, and guide dog users often get tagged with the
> fall out from others abusing the right to use service and companion 
> animals.
> We all remember the companion pig who went berserk on an airline flight a
> few years ago.  At the same time, these animals do provide a valid service
> to many, and in general terms, people with disabilities ought to have the
> right to use legitimate service and companion animals.  Lastly, as others
> said, this is not really an issue under consideration by the MAB or NFB, 
> but
> it's still on topic for MT-Blind because it affects those of us who use
> guide dogs.  Good discussion, BTW!
>
>
> Jim Marks
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