[Mt-blind] KAYLA'S PROJECT

dmgina dmgina at qwest.net
Fri May 4 13:43:59 CDT 2007 

If the dog was going to SanRafael,
Then I would be for it.
But not for another school, that doesn't train for the blind.
I take a huge stand on this one.


--Dar
Every saint has a future,
Every sinner has a past
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward C Robbins" <robbinsec at juno.com>
To: <mt-blind at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <mt-blind at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Mt-blind] KAYLA'S PROJECT


> Hi Dar,
>        As I understand the relationship with the Blind, Kayla is a blind
> person herself.
>        There has been no discussion by the Board for support of Kayla,
> so if one wants to support her, that is entirely your parogative.
>        I believe the School has made contact with the Blind
> organization, MAB, to gain support from one Blind person for another.  If
> the organization would provide support, that is so much the better for
> her.
> Ted Robbins
>
> On Fri, 4 May 2007 08:04:59 -0600 "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net> writes:
>> Hi there,
>> This is what I am interested in,
>> I had no clue there were dog schools in the Montana area.
>> I think that is grate.
>> Are we to support Kayla because she is with MAB and not the school
>> itself?
>> It seems to me, if we start to support other organizations where do
>> the
>> Blind fit in.
>> Especially if this is going to a wheel chair person
>> Just my thoughts, and still learning what Mab does or doesn't
>> support.
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> --Dar
>> Every saint has a future,
>> Every sinner has a past
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Daniel Burke" <burke.dall at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Montana Association for the Blind List'"
>> <mt-blind at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 7:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Mt-blind] KAYLA'S PROJECT
>>
>>
>> > Dar,
>> >
>> > There are a couple of service dog training schools and programs in
>> the
>> > Missoula area alone.  Let me repeat what Jim said earlier, though
>> -- these
>> > are not dogs that will be used as dog guides for blind people.  I
>> don't
>> > know
>> > if Kayla's dog is destined for a guide dog school, but I'm sure
>> she and
>> > her
>> > professor have made the appropriate contacts if that is what they
>> are
>> > thinking about.
>> >
>> > Because you're right - guide schools don't just interview dogs at
>> age one
>> > or
>> > so, they have a direct involvement with the dogs from birth.
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: mt-blind-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:mt-blind-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> > Behalf Of dmgina
>> > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 9:48 PM
>> > To: Montana Association for the Blind List
>> > Subject: Re: [Mt-blind] KAYLA'S PROJECT
>> >
>> > Thanks for the phone number.
>> > But I would like to talk to someone from the top who is doing this
>>
>> > training.
>> > You just can't take a dog and train it with no experience.
>> > It makes it harder for the person who is receiving the dog.
>> > Taking training from a guide dog school, doesn't give myself or any
>> other
>> > blind person the correct training for the wheel chair person.
>> > And the persons needs.
>> > Is there a school in Montana who knows how to do this training
>> correctly?
>> > How many years has this school been open,
>> > With many more questions, I am sure Kayla wouldn't know.
>> > Thanks again for the phone number.
>> >
>> >
>> > --Dar
>> > Every saint has a future,
>> > Every sinner has a past
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Carl Schweitzer" <carl at mt.net>
>> > To: "Montana Association for the Blind List"
>> <mt-blind at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 9:21 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Mt-blind] KAYLA'S PROJECT
>> >
>> >
>> >> Dar:  I don't know if I can answer all your questions and
>> concerns but
>> >> let
>> >> me tell you what I know.  Kayla has been taking a program at
>> Carroll that
>> >> is
>> >> in its first year.  As the letter from her instructor said the
>> Human
>> >> Animal
>> >> Bond Program has been in development since early 2005, and was
>> officially
>> >> accepted as an academic minor on April 3.  Kayla has been taking
>> classes
>> >> in
>> >> this program for the full year and one of the objectives of the
>> program
>> >> is
>> >> to train a dog to become a service animal.  There are two
>> objectives in
>> >> training the dog - 1. to train the dog to be used by someone in
>> need and
>> >> 2;
>> >> to give Kayla the experience of training a dog. The dog may not
>> go to a
>> >> guide dog school after it is trained, but probably to a
>> handicapped
>> >> person
>> >> who could use an animal to pick up things for them. That is one
>> potential
>> >> use of the dog.  If you want to call Kayla and talk to her, her
>> phone
>> >> number
>> >> is 465-1544 and I am sure she can tell you more about what the
>> program is
>> >> about.  Have a great day.  Carl
>> >>> >> 2007.
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> >> To: <blind.grizzly at gmail.com>; "Montana Association for the Blind
>> List"
>> >> <mt-blind at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 7:32 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Mt-blind] KAYLA'S PROJECT
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I think this is grate,
>> >>> My question still is,
>> >>> The paper work that a raiser has to fill out for a school?
>> >>> Is this being done?
>> >>> What school is wishing this dog after training?
>> >>> Second question,
>> >>> Where did the people get the training to train a dog?
>> >>> Or is this just something they decided to do.
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> --Dar
>> >>> Every saint has a future,
>> >>> Every sinner has a past
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>> From: "Jim Marks" <blind.grizzly at gmail.com>
>> >>> To: "'Montana Association for the Blind List'"
>> <mt-blind at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 5:03 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Mt-blind] KAYLA'S PROJECT
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> >I think the Carroll College project is for service dogs for
>> people with
>> >>> > disabilities other than blindness.  Many students at the
>> University of
>> >>> > Montana use such animals, especially those who use wheelchairs
>> or are
>> >> deaf
>> >>> > or hard of hearing.  It sounds like a very nice project.
>> Guide dog
>> >>> > schools
>> >>> > usually use their own animals, but each school does it their
>> own way.
>> >> So,
>> >>> > I
>> >>> > think that some schools do take in animals raised by others
>> while
>> >>> > others
>> >>> > raise their own dogs.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Jim Marks
>> >>> > blind.grizzly at GMail.com
>> >>> > -----Original Message-----
>> >>> > From: mt-blind-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:mt-blind-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> On
>> >>> > Behalf Of dmgina
>> >>> > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 4:44 PM
>> >>> > To: Montana Association for the Blind List
>> >>> > Subject: Re: [Mt-blind] KAYLA'S PROJECT
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Will this dog go back to SanRafael?
>> >>> > If so how does the school feel about the dogs training.
>> >>> > Also will all of the steps be taken as the school asks raisers
>> to do?
>> >>> > Filling out paper work and such.
>> >>> > Or is this dog being trained for a blind person?
>> >>> > I would like to know more information before I would give out
>> money.
>> >>> > How old is the dog, and who is paying vet bills to make sure
>> that the
>> >> dog
>> >>> > is
>> >>> >
>> >>> > healthy in all respects.
>> >>> >>From hips to teeth.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thanks,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --Dar
>> >>> > Every saint has a future,
>> >>> > Every sinner has a past
>> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>> > From: "Jerry Hutch" <modrepro at mt.net>
>> >>> > To: <Mt-blind at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 4:27 PM
>> >>> > Subject: [Mt-blind] KAYLA'S PROJECT
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> to the mt blind mail list:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I just received the following letter from Dr. Anne Perkins of
>> Carroll
>> >>> >> College and was asked if I would post this on the mt blind
>> list.
>> >>> >> Kayla
>> >>> >> is a past MAB scholarship winner and has been doing very well
>> at
>> >> Carroll
>> >>> >> and is involved in a very interesting project that can lead
>> to many
>> >>> >> things for Montana and for the blind community.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Jerry Hutch
>> >>> >> Capital City Chapter
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Dear list members,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> > >> I am Dr. Anne Perkins, the director an exciting new program at
>> >>> >> Carroll
>> >>> >> College. The Human Animal Bond Program has been in
>> development since
>> >>> >> early 2005, and was officially accepted as an academic minor
>> on April
>> >> 3,
>> >>> >> 2007. The program features two tracks, the canine and the
>> equine. In
>> >> the
>> >>> >> canine path students raise and train puppies to be service
>> dogs for
>> >>> >> academic credit. This program gives students the opportunity
>> to learn
>> >>> >> about many aspects of the canine species, such as puppy
>> attachment,
>> >>> >> developmental stages, training, service-oriented tasks and
>> placement,
>> >>> >> etc. Not only does this program give students a unique
>> learning
>> >>> >> opportunity, but also provides service animals for people
>> with
>> >>> >> disabilities.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>            Kayla Legare is one of the very first students to
>> enter
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> program, and will be one of the first to graduate with a
>> minor in
>> >>> >> Human-Animal bonding. She has successfully completed the
>> first year
>> >>> >> of
>> >>> >> course work in the program. However, in order to complete the
>> minor
>> >>> >> she
>> >>> >> needs to raise a dog to be placed with a person who has a
>> disability.
>> >>> >> Next year she will be living with other students in the
>> program,
>> >> raising
>> >>> >> a dog for service. This house will feature a state of the art
>> dog
>> >>> >> facility, where other students and an instructor will be
>> supervising
>> >> and
>> >>> >> assisting.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>            Kayla is a disabled student with a guide dog named
>>
>> >>> >> Wheeler,
>> >>> >> and has extensive experience in the management and use of a
>> guide
>> >>> >> dog.
>> >>> >> She has worked with Wheeler since July of 2005, when she
>> graduated
>> >>> >> from
>> >>> >> Guide Dogs for the Blind in San Rafael, California, and was
>> partnered
>> >>> >> with Wheeler. There Kayla received extensive training in
>> handling a
>> >>> >> service dog. Kayla feels very privileged for this
>> opportunity, and is
>> >>> >> very thankful. She would love to raise a puppy because it
>> would allow
>> >>> >> her to give back. She understands how important service
>> animals are
>> >>> >> in
>> >>> >> the lives of people with disabilities and she wants to
>> provide a
>> >> service
>> >>> >> dog for someone else in need.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>            Because this program is brand new, the expense of
>> a puppy
>> >>> >> is
>> >>> >> a huge strain. Kayla hopes to raise a German Shepherd Dog for
>>
>> >>> >> service.
>> >>> >> Please assist Kayla in her effort to give back to the
>> community by
>> >>> >> sending a tax deductible donation to the address below. Any
>> donation
>> >>> >> will hel.p. Thank you very much for your time, please
>> consider this
>> >>> >> request, and have a great day.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Human Animal Bond Program
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Carroll College
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> 1601 N Benton
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Helena, MT 59625
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Sincerely, Dr. Anne Perkins
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>>
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