[Journalists] meaningful subject descriptions

Thu Feb 7 19:23:26 CST 2008

Thanks, Dave. List, would you please ensure your message has a subject line
indicating its contents rather than using the "Digest Vol. whatever" line?

Thanks!

Annemarie Cooke
Vice President,
Administration and Sales
De Witt & Associates
700 Godwin Ave.
Midland Park, NJ 07432
(201) 447-6500 x211
annemarie at 4dewitt.com
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   1. Re: Hi Elizabeth, Pirzada (Cheryl Wade)
   2. Re: Journalists Digest, Vol 21, Issue 1 (David Andrews)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:31:56 -0500
From: Cheryl Wade <cwade at mdn.net>
Subject: Re: [Journalists] Hi Elizabeth, Pirzada
To: Blind Professional Journalists List <journalists at nfbnet.org>
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			Hello, Pirzada. As a reader of several 
blindness magazines, I have a question you might be able to help 
answer.

I often read about the huge disparity between what blind people in 
the United States have and what they have in other countries. It 
pains me to hear that people in some of these countries don't even 
have decent Braille paper or writing equipment, much less 
opportunities for decent jobs. I am aware of this disparity, and I 
believe people in the U.S. should help out when they can.

I'm interested in the situation in Pakistan. Are people open to 
having people with disabilities in high-profile careers? Does it 
depend on where you live or your background? I ask this mostly 
because I hear so many pleas for just the basic necessities in many 
parts of the world, and I wonder how to treat some of them.

Cheryl Wade

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:31:51 -0600
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
Subject: Re: [Journalists] Journalists Digest, Vol 21, Issue 1
To: Blind Professional Journalists List <journalists at nfbnet.org>
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Annemarie:

The digests to contain the actual subjects, both in the list of 
messages at the top, and throughout the body of the digest, at the 
beginning of each message.  So, what you are seeing is that someone 
replied to a digest itself, and its subject got used again and again 
as people replied.

This isn't an error by our software, but use of an inappropriate subject
line.

Dave

At 07:42 AM 2/4/2008, you wrote:
>Hey list, I am receiving postings in digest form. Instead of a subject line
>indicating, say, "audio recording", all subject lines simply say Digest
Vol.
>Whatever it is. How can we have the subject lines show in the listing of
>messages in the digest?
>
>Thanks, all!
>
>Annemarie Cooke
>Vice President,
>Administration and Sales
>De Witt & Associates
>700 Godwin Ave.
>Midland Park, NJ 07432
>(201) 447-6500 x211
>annemarie at 4dewitt.com
>Check out www.4dewitt.com
>
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>Subject: Journalists Digest, Vol 21, Issue 1
>
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>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>than "Re: Contents of Journalists digest..."
>
>
>Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8 (Campbell, Elizabeth)
>    2. Re: Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8 (LoriStay at aol.com)
>    3. Re: Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8 (Cheryl Wade)
>    4. Re: Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8 (Campbell, Elizabeth)
>    5. Re: Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8 (LoriStay at aol.com)
>    6. Re: Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8 (Cheryl Wade)
>    7. Re: Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8 (jean parker)
>    8. Re: Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8 (Campbell, Elizabeth)
>
>
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:29:25 -0600
>From: "Campbell, Elizabeth" <liz at star-telegram.com>
>Subject: Re: [Journalists] Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8
>To: "Blind Professional Journalists List" <journalists at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID:
>
><E218290FACD5AA4DAE69450BCF925E190244CFBB at FWSTEX03.fwst.fwstroot.star-teleg
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>
>Hello Cheryl,
>
>I am just learning about the world of audio editing and recording using
>digital equipment.
>Right now, our paper is using a mini disk recorder, as the audio is a
>little clearer than digital recorders, from what I've been told.
>A lot of blind people are using the Olympus DS50 recorders because they
>are fairly accesible. The machines beep when they are in record, or
>pause mode,and most of the functions have voice prompts. I personally
>think the recording quality is pretty good, and I plan on purchasing a
>machine this month. I've talked to the paper about my using the DS 50
>because of its accessibility features.
>There is a way to place a mark in your recordings which audio editing
>software can read, and it is important to note the time and date of when
>you create these marks so that they can be easily found.
>Bryan Bashin and I got a chance to test drive these recorders during
>last summer's NFB Youth Slam.
>The recorders were given to high school students who were responsible
>for coming up with audio for daily podcasts that are now on a web site
>called
>www.blindscience.org
>The students learned the basic functions of the machine,and did well in
>working with them, from what I remember.
>We also worked wiht Larry Skutchan of the American Printing House for
>the Blind who edited the sound files using a program he created called
>Studeo Recorder.
>Blind people have also used other programs such as Sound Forge and Gold
>wave pretty successfully.
>I will let you know how I am progressing with audio for online content.
>
>
>Elizabeth Campbell
>(817) 390-7696
>Fax: (817) 390-7789
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: journalists-bounces at nfbnet.org
>[mailto:journalists-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cheryl Wade
>Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:56 AM
>To: Blind Professional Journalists List
>Subject: Re: [Journalists] Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8
>
>                         Liz,
>
>I was interested in your comment about the burgeoning online presence
>in the industry. At my newspaper, we're beginning to run streaming
>audio - and soon streaming video - of important local stories. I know
>nothing about editing interviews with digital recorders; my radio
>experience goes back to the days of cassettes, when you wound the
>tape to the place you wanted the news director to play on the air and
>wrote "intros" and "out-tros." I'm wondering if there will be easy
>ways for reporters to put electronic markers on the digital recording
>to locate the good parts. I most likely won't be editing for the Web,
>but certainly will be recording for audio interviews. (Are there
>digital recorders that have features to add a beep tone heard when
>the machine is in fast forward or fast rewind, and does that even
>matter when the editor most likely will be looking for visual and not
>auditory clues?)
>
>Always enjoy you all so much!
>
>Cheryl Wade
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:32:32 EST
>From: LoriStay at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [Journalists] Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8
>To: journalists at nfbnet.org
>Message-ID: <bde.2871e783.34d3c2a0 at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Liz--Are the DS 50 recorders affordable for the individual?   Or must they
>be
>purchased by one's employer, providing s/he has deep pockets?
>Lori Stayer
>
>
>**************
>Start the year off right.  Easy ways to stay in
>shape.
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>-------------- next part --------------
>Liz--Are the DS 50 recorders affordable for the individual?  Or must they
be
>purchased by one's employer, providing s/he has deep pockets?
>Lori Stayer
>**************
>Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
>http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
>
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>
>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 08:39:37 -0500
>From: Cheryl Wade <cwade at mdn.net>
>Subject: Re: [Journalists] Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8
>To: Blind Professional Journalists List <journalists at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID: <p05200f02c3c8d10a0376@[192.168.1.85]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>
>                         Hi, Liz,
>
>Thanks for the suggestions. I forwarded them on to our Web guy.
>Actually, it would probably be fun to own one of these machines
>because I might be able to record local concerts in the park, just
>for fun. That way I could better rationalize the possibility of my
>buying my own equipment - although my paper would buy it if they
>thought it was needed.
>
>Are you folks in a real economic slump? We're using attrition to
>downsize our staff in a big way, and it's pretty inconvenient . I
>almost wish readers understood how hard it is anymore to get to
>everything, what with about three fewer people!
>
>Cheryl
>
>
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>
>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:05:33 -0600
>From: "Campbell, Elizabeth" <liz at star-telegram.com>
>Subject: Re: [Journalists] Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8
>To: "Blind Professional Journalists List" <journalists at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID:
>
><E218290FACD5AA4DAE69450BCF925E190244CFBC at FWSTEX03.fwst.fwstroot.star-teleg
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>am.com>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hi Lori,
>
>The DS 50 recorders are around $250.
>
>Elizabeth Campbell
>(817) 390-7696
>Fax: (817) 390-7789
>-----Original Message-----
>From: journalists-bounces at nfbnet.org
>[mailto:journalists-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of LoriStay at aol.com
>Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:33 PM
>To: journalists at nfbnet.org
>Subject: Re: [Journalists] Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8
>
>Liz--Are the DS 50 recorders affordable for the individual?   Or must
>they be
>purchased by one's employer, providing s/he has deep pockets?
>Lori Stayer
>
>
>**************
>Start the year off right.  Easy ways to stay in
>shape.
>
>http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
>
>
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>
>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:58:15 EST
>From: LoriStay at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [Journalists] Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8
>To: journalists at nfbnet.org
>Message-ID: <be8.286ee598.34d4a9a7 at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>In a message dated 2/1/08 11:10:08 AM, liz at star-telegram.com writes:
>
>
> >
> > The DS 50 recorders are around $250.
> >
> >
>
>This is certainly affordable for most workers and virtually all employers.
>
>Am I right in presuming most newspapers are online these days?   I know
>those
>in New York are.
>Lori
>
>
>**************
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>
>
>(http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000
0
>0002548)
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>In a message dated 2/1/08 11:10:08 AM, liz at star-telegram.com writes:
>The DS 50 recorders are around $250.
>This is certainly affordable for most workers and virtually all employers.
>Am I right in presuming most newspapers are online these days?  I know
those
>in New York are.
>Lori
>**************
>Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music.
>(http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000
0
>0002548)
>
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>
>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 12:55:19 -0500
>From: Cheryl Wade <cwade at mdn.net>
>Subject: Re: [Journalists] Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8
>To: Blind Professional Journalists List <journalists at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID: <p05200f07c3c90d232148@[192.168.1.85]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>
>                         Hi, all,
>One of our techier guys around here stumbled onto a site for blind
>users of audio equipment and he said he found the answer there to
>something he'd been seeking for some time. It has the word
>"audacious" in it, but I haven't searched the Web for it. Too busy
>writing words.
>
>Cheryl
>
>
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>
>Message: 7
>Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 23:34:45 +0530
>From: "jean parker" <radioforever at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Journalists] Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8
>To: "Blind Professional Journalists List" <journalists at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID: <007701c864fc$f1dba8e0$0500a8c0 at DELL600M>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>         reply-type=original
>
>Hi:
>
>It's probably Audacity.  It's a freeware audio editing program that is
>accessible.
>
>Jean Parker, Independent Radio Journalist
>Pune, India
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Cheryl Wade" <cwade at mdn.net>
>To: "Blind Professional Journalists List" <journalists at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:25 PM
>Subject: Re: [Journalists] Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8
>
>
> > Hi, all,
> > One of our techier guys around here stumbled onto a site for blind
> > users of audio equipment and he said he found the answer there to
> > something he'd been seeking for some time. It has the word
> > "audacious" in it, but I haven't searched the Web for it. Too busy
> > writing words.
> >
> > Cheryl
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 12:13:31 -0600
>From: "Campbell, Elizabeth" <liz at star-telegram.com>
>Subject: Re: [Journalists] Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8
>To: "Blind Professional Journalists List" <journalists at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID:
>
><E218290FACD5AA4DAE69450BCF925E190244CFC0 at FWSTEX03.fwst.fwstroot.star-teleg
r
>am.com>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hello Cheryl,
>What is the name of the web site for blind people working with audio
>
>Elizabeth Campbell
>(817) 390-7696
>Fax: (817) 390-7789
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: journalists-bounces at nfbnet.org
>[mailto:journalists-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cheryl Wade
>Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:55 AM
>To: Blind Professional Journalists List
>Subject: Re: [Journalists] Journalists Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8
>
>                         Hi, all,
>One of our techier guys around here stumbled onto a site for blind
>users of audio equipment and he said he found the answer there to
>something he'd been seeking for some time. It has the word
>"audacious" in it, but I haven't searched the Web for it. Too busy
>writing words.
>
>Cheryl
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