[Jobs] Dancing Dots Software

Wed Aug 1 11:08:17 CDT 2007

I don't know if this is the right board to post this request or not.
But here goes: there is a VR counselor here in Indiana who is working
with a student attending a university studying music.  VR has purchased
a software program called Dancing Dots to translate Braille music.
However, the university special needs department is unsure how to apply
the software.  The counselor has checked with AT personnel around the
state without success.  Anyone had any experience with this software?
Any suggestions.

Thanks.

Kathy Ashley, MS, CRC
Program Director for Blind & VI Services
Vocational Rehabilitation Services
1-800-545-7763
317-232-1352
Fax: 317-232-6478

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-----Original Message-----
From: jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Edwin Rodriguez
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:50 AM
To: Jobs for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Jobs] Some Clarity on,"Want to Start Crafters Division of
the NFB"

Dear Laurie,
Thank you for such an informative and eloquent posting
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "laurie porter" <freespirit1 at tds.net>
To: "Jobs for the Blind" <jobs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Jobs] Some Clarity on,"Want to Start Crafters Division of
the 
NFB"

> new division. One of the things that most divisions share is to bring
to 
> the
> discussion issues that effect one's ability to become employed in a
given
> field. For example, the music division has helped those who have
wanted to
> teach music, and worked to improve the technology to make braille
sheet
> music more available. For the last 10 years, I've built an  aenjoyable
> career as a jewlery maker and seller. As far as I know,There are only
a
> handful of blind jewlery makers and vendors.  . Needless to say, there
is
> very little in the way of accessible publications like books with
beading
> patterns, etc.  I remember once, somebody posted to the jobs list
about a
> career in jewlery sales and procurement and wanted to know what to
tell 
> the
> employer how he could go about efficiently accomodating  the business.
So, 
> I
> started compiling a text publication that can give a blind person the
> ability to identify various high quality precious and semi-prescious 
> stones.
> There is  quite a bit of discrimination of blind people who want to
enter
> the Nation's prestigeous jewlery achademies. This field can be just as
> discriminating as the medical profession can be. Many of us are
charting 
> new
> territories of art forms. I have begun exploring the art of  the
Fusing 
> and
> blowing of glass for making a designing my own handcrafted beads, as
well 
> as
> cutting, shaping and drilling gem stones. The other important issue
for me
> is to remove the stigma attached to the blind crafter that is outlined
in
> the Rehab Song. " I learned chair caning, I learned basketry and now 
> there's
> not a damn sole who wants to hire me". Although, I understand and
agree 
> with
> the context of the song, I think that careers in crafting can be 
> lucrative,
> challenging and respectable. This can perhaps be achieved through work

> shops
> and a formal art gallery and/or silent auction at national
conventions. 
> So,
> for me this is more than just swapping patterns and exchanging 
> information.
> A gallery would be just as enjoyable to conventioners as the plays
that 
> are
> put on by the Performing Arts Division  or the Music Division's talent
> how.  ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Everett Gavel" <EverettG at SuccessfulAdaptations.com>
> To: <Blindhands at aol.com>
> Cc: "NFB Fundraising Mailing List" <nfb-fundraising at nfbnet.org>;
"NFBnet
> Teachers of the Visually Impaired/Blind Mailing List" 
> <teachvib at nfbnet.org>;
> "Blind Professional Journalists List" <journalists at nfbnet.org>;
"NFBnet 
> NAB
> Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>; "Jobs for the
Blind"
> <jobs at nfbnet.org>; "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" 
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>;
> <nasb at nfbnet.org>; "Rehabilitation Counselor Mailing List"
> <rehab at nfbnet.org>; "NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List"
> <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 12:49 PM
> Subject: [Jobs] Some Clarity on, "Want to Start Crafters Division of
the
> NFB"
>
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> After spouting off on my opinion about a Crafter's
>> Division of the NFB the other day - and hoping some of
>> you could provide clarity on it, thankfully, Joyce Kane
>> replied to me (offlist).  Joyce is the person behind
>> this Crafter's Division effort, and requests contact
>> from those interested.  Her e-mail address, and
>> message, is below.
>>
>> Joyce sent me a message with more details than were in
>> that original mass-post to the lists.  Below is her
>> response to me, which she has said I could share with
>> the lists.  Since I've brought up discussion on this
>> matter, I felt like I should share the clarifying
>> message, too.  With me, the matter has been settled for
>> the most part.  Her message below seems to make far
>> more sense out of it than that original post did.
>>
>> With the examples she gives below, I fully agree that
>> such ignorance is why divisions could, sometimes
>> should, be formed.  So people can focus specifically on
>> that area, to both educate the unknowing and make for
>> better accessibility, in that area.
>>
>> I hope her message helps some here gain clarity, as it
>> has with me.  I think such a division has a purpose, as
>> long as it keeps focused and actually does what it sets
>> out to do.  Which, as a division, should be more than
>> just a gathering place for people with similar
>> interests.  Seems to me too many divisions get a
>> mission written-up, get some bylaws going, vote in
>> people, and don't really do much else.  If that's all
>> any, any, new divisions will do, I am not for any of
>> them.  But if one can be formed and actually make a
>> difference on a continuing, year-to-year basis, then
>> I'm all for it.
>>
>> Yes, they make fine gathering places for those with
>> similar interests.  And maybe I'm misunderstanding what
>> a division is.  But seems to me a discussion list or
>> group could be for gathering places. Divisions seem
>> more business-like to me, and should be focused on
>> making actual changes and improvements among the
>> massive misunderstandings and ignorance towards the
>> truths of blindness so prevalent in the world.  At the
>> same time, it could be a "gathering place."  But a
>> division seems like it should be making actual, useful,
>> change--first and foremost.
>>
>> Joyce's message of clarification is below.  Just below
>> my short reply to her, which is directly below.
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Joyce,
>> Everett
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Everett Gavel"
>> <EverettG at SuccessfulAdaptations.com>
>> To: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 2:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] [Jobs] Want to Start
>> Crafters Division of the NFB
>>
>>
>> Hi Joyce,
>>
>> Thank you.  That's the logic and wisdom I was hoping
>> for.  I just wish your reply had been public.  Because
>> what you share below makes such a division seem
>> sensible.  What was sent out as the notice was,
>> perhaps, too generic.  It did not seem to make nearly
>> as much sense in it's case for a division, as you do
>> below.   Thanks for taking the time to help me
>> understand better, and see the other side of it more
>> clearly.
>>
>> If that's what you can do, what you say below, that's a
>> great set of reasons that need changing, indeed.  I beg
>> you though, don't let happen what has happened to too
>> many divisions.  Don't write up a pretty-sounding
>> mission statement or set of bylaws, then never really
>> do much at all once you're formed and have voted in
>> some people.
>>
>> Those changes you speak of below, they need to be made,
>> indeed.  I'm all for helping if and when I can.  But
>> too often, it seems, a lack of serious action is what
>> follows.  Admittedly, I've too often been a part of the
>> problem rather than a part of the solution.  But I keep
>> on trying to be better, and trying to take more regular
>> action.  (smile)
>>
>> May God bless your efforts, Joyce.  Thanks again for
>> shedding some understanding upon this for me.   Hey,
>> would you mind if I shared this message with a few
>> lists that have had brief discussions since I
>> originally replied to the Crafter's post?  It'd help
>> your efforts, I think.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Everett
>> www.everettgavel.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>> To: <EverettG at SuccessfulAdaptations.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] [Jobs] Want to Start
>> Crafters Division of the NFB
>>
>>
>>> Dear Everett:
>>>
>>> I am sorry you feel the way you do about what I
>> wrote.  I am a crafter  and
>>> went blind 10 years ago.  I had basically worked in
>> crafts while my  children
>>> grew up and manufactured and wholesaled beside
>> retailed my unique  items.
>>>
>>> I hope this can turn into something for everyone that
>> is blind.
>>>
>>> After I went blind all I had was sighted people
>> telling me I could not do
>>> this or that because I was blind.  I could not find
>> another blind person to
>>> talk with that had figured out how to do
>> candlemaking, quilting, sewing on a
>>> machine, knitting or whatever I had had interest in
>> prior to going blind.
>>>
>>> I finally got tired of the "You can't do it"   With a
>> lot of  trial and error
>>> and there was frustration I did not give up and
>> learned for  myself how to go
>>> about learning things.  If a group of us could show
>> others  how we do it, it
>>> is a worthwhile venture.
>>>
>>> I had sighted people refuse to sell me antique
>> circular sock machines, a
>>> knitting machine and had other sighted people try to
>> discourage me in joining
>>> some crafters groups because I could not see.
>>>
>>> I would like this to be a place at convention that we
>> can help each other
>>> learn by showing, teach another, share our
>> creativeness and enjoy our  crafts.
>>> I would like this to be a place where folks running
>> their own  business might
>>> come and purchase our creations, others learn how to
>> turn what  they love to
>>> do into a business, etc.
>>>
>>> Isn't all these divisions just that?  Not exactly a
>> social get  together, but
>>> a place to network with others that have been there
>> and done  that?
>>>
>>> Where else could we get so many blind people to
>> gather in one place that
>>> have the same interest.  No matter if this is a group
>> or a division I  believe
>>> the 50 names I have gathered since this hit the NFB
>> lists prove that  people
>>> have interest in this.
>>>
>>> Joyce Kane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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