[Iabs-talk] amazing what the ACB believe about the NFB

Sun Dec 17 19:11:09 CST 2006

Maybe they need to make themselves feel better.  I think a lot of what they 
are saying is silly.  One person sent me a resolution where the NFB was 
trying to get money  changed.  He said that the NFB had a flip flop approach 
to handling issues.  He is a member of the ACB.  Does anyone know of this 
resolution and what do you think about it? I am pasting the message below to 
see what people think and also I would appreciate any feed back so I can be 
,more informed as how to answer questions.
Here is the text of a 1994 resolution that was adopted by the NFB
supporting the changing of United States paper currency so that bills can be
distinguished via touch. I want to thank the person--who shall remain
nameless--for tipping me off to the availability of this resolution. I
can't wait to see NFB explain this away!

RESOLUTION 94-07

WHEREAS, the United States Department of the Treasury is examining
alternatives to the present currency for the purposes of making
counterfeiting more difficult
and for making currency more compatible with modern technology; and

WHEREAS, revisions to the present currency may include variations in
color, raised markings, bar coding, or other electronically readable
formats; and

WHEREAS, it is a widespread misconception that blind people cannot
handle their own money because they cannot see it; and

WHEREAS, it is beyond dispute that blind people can, in fact, handle
their own money; however, bills which can be identified by other than
conventional
print could be more convenient for everyone, may be a necessity to
safeguard against counterfeiting, and may be desirable to take the best
advantage of
evolving technology: Now, therefore,

BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention
assembled this seventh day of July, 1994, in the City of Detroit, Michigan, 
that this
organization express the interest of blind people in the discussion of
a modernized form of currency so that any changes which may eventually
be made will
include methods of identifying money by other than strictly visual
means; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this Federation, notwithstanding its
expressed interest in the ultimate decisions on currency changes, do all in
its power correctly
to inform the public that blind people can and do successfully handle
money in its present form.

Chris----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Connie Davis" <condav850 at yahoo.com>
To: "Illinois Association of Blind Students List" <iabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Iabs-talk] amazing what the ACB believe about the NFB

Absolutely, Chris.  I wouldn't waste my time with such nonsense.  It's like 
going to someone's house as a guest and being rude.  I just can't understand 
why people get such a kick out of doing that.  But they must.  Why else 
would they do it?

----- Original Message ----
From: Christella Garcia <christellablue at gmail.com>
To: Illinois Association of Blind Students List <iabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 3:05:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Iabs-talk] amazing what the ACB believe about the NFB

Hey Connie, I hope you were just kitting.  I don't think it would be
appropriate to engage in nonproductive behavior.  Two wrongs don't make a
write.  I am truly frustrated about the negative comments that we have been
hearing, but I think we as an organization should spend more time focusing
on positive issues rather than mud slinging.
Chris
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Connie Davis" <condav850 at yahoo.com>
To: "Illinois Association of Blind Students List" <iabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Iabs-talk] amazing what the ACB believe about the NFB

How does one subscribe to the ACB list?  I'd like to go on their list and
make disparaging remarks about their organization just it's done on our
lists.

----- Original Message ----
From: Samuel Joehl <sjoehl at yahoo.com>
To: Illinois Association of Blind Students List <iabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Iabs-talk] amazing what the ACB believe about the NFB

I'm equally as amazed by what the NFB believes about the ACB.  A
disparraging remark was made in the press release sent out by the NFB
regarding the currency issue stating that the ACB believes that blind people
need to be taken care of and pitied.  I feel that these organizations waste
more energy fighting amongst
themselves and attacking each other than they do working on the issues that
they both agree on, like education and employment - the issues that the NFB
claims are of greater importance than accessible currency.  It's no wonder
that we haven't made more progress in gaining equality and opportunity for
the blind.  What happened to those ideas of collaboration, comradery and
commitment?  Was that just a catchy aliteration that gets tossed out the
window when the courts start to side with the "other" organization?

Dave Wright <gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
  Hey guys,
Just wanted to send this to the list to generate some discussion concerning
the nfb and what we stand for. It's really amazing what the ACB believe and
tell people about our organization. Perhaps this will give people a chance
to think about what we really stand for and raise some spirit for our
organization.
Dave

Hello ACB Leaders and Friends:

I've spent about the last day thinking about something. ACB has
gained a lot of positive media attention with our favorable
ruling in the currency lawsuit. This ruling, if used correctly,
can breathe new life into our membership recruitment efforts and
we must harness the energy from this ruling and begin a huge push
to recruit new members. In every local chapter, state and
special interest affiliate and nationally, we have the
opportunity to tell people what ACB stands for and bring them to
our side.

Often times, all of us have been asked, what do I get for joining
ACB. Well, let me share a few talking points.

ACB takes no government money. Therefore, ACB is the only
consumer based and funded advocacy organization of the blind
working for all people who are blind regardless of where they
come from or their economic status.

ACB works on issues which are important to all people who are
blind, and we don't spend our money on fancy buildings, operating
training centers, and telephone newspaper services which only
benefit some blind people. ACB is working for the blind worker
struggling to find a job, but it's also working for the person
who is blind who struggles to live from month to month on SSI.
ACB is here for the blind vendor, and we're here for the average
person who is blind who simply wants to independently know how
much he or she has in his or her wallet or purse. ACB fights for
the blind person needing mass transit, and we're working for the
family with a blind member who wants to sit down in front of the
tv, break out the popcorn and beverages and equally enjoy a
television program or a movie. ACB stands for independent access
to the ballot and for the blind musician who needs to use Braille
music.

I'm sure there are more talking points that I could come up with.
The point is we have many good reasons to be proud of our ACB and
bring in new members to share that pride with us. I am so proud
ACB doesn't provide training services or build big buildings.
ACB works at the grass roots level for each and every person who
is blind in the United States and across the world.

Ray Campbell, Proud Member, ACB Board of Directors
ray1530 at comcast.net_______________________________________________
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I'm equally as amazed by what the NFB believes about the ACB.  A
disparraging remark was made in the press release sent out by the NFB
regarding the currency issue stating that the ACB believes that blind people
need to be taken care of and pitied.  I feel that these organizations waste
more energy fighting amongst
themselves and attacking each other than they do working on the issues that
they both agree on, like education and employment - the issues that the NFB
claims are of greater importance than accessible currency.  It's no wonder
that we haven't made more progress in gaining equality and opportunity for
the blind.  What happened to those ideas of collaboration, comradery and
commitment?  Was that just a catchy aliteration that gets tossed out the
window when the courts start to side with the "other" organization?

Dave Wright <gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Hey guys,
Just wanted to send this to the list to generate some discussion concerning
the nfb and what we stand for. It's really amazing what the ACB believe and
tell people about our organization. Perhaps this will give people a chance
to think about what we really stand for and raise some spirit for our
organization.
Dave
Hello ACB Leaders and Friends:
I've spent about the last day thinking about something. ACB has
gained a lot of positive media attention with our favorable
ruling in the currency lawsuit. This ruling, if used correctly,
can breathe new life into our membership recruitment efforts and
we must harness the energy from this ruling and begin a huge push
to recruit new members. In every local chapter, state and
special interest affiliate and nationally, we have the
opportunity to tell people what ACB stands for and bring them to
our side.
Often times, all of us have been asked, what do I get for joining
ACB. Well, let me share a few talking points.
ACB takes no government money. Therefore, ACB is the only
consumer based and funded advocacy organization of the blind
working for all people who are blind regardless of where they
come from or their economic status.
ACB works on issues which are important to all people who are
blind, and we don't spend our money on fancy buildings, operating
training centers, and telephone newspaper services which only
benefit some blind people. ACB is working for the blind worker
struggling to find a job, but it's also working for the person
who is blind who struggles to live from month to month on SSI.
ACB is here for the blind vendor, and we're here for the average
person who is blind who simply wants to independently know how
much he or she has in his or her wallet or purse. ACB fights for
the blind person needing mass transit, and we're working for the
family with a blind member who wants to sit down in front of the
tv, break out the popcorn and beverages and equally enjoy a
television program or a movie. ACB stands for independent access
to the ballot and for the blind musician who needs to use Braille
music.
I'm sure there are more talking points that I could come up with.
The point is we have many good reasons to be proud of our ACB and
bring in new members to share that pride with us. I am so proud
ACB doesn't provide training services or build big buildings.
ACB works at the grass roots level for each and every person who
is blind in the United States and across the world.
Ray Campbell, Proud Member, ACB Board of Directors
ray1530 at comcast.net_______________________________________________
Iabs-talk mailing list
Iabs-talk at nfbnet.org
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