[Iabs-talk] amazing what the ACB believe about the NFB

Sun Dec 17 15:40:59 CST 2006

Absolutely, Chris.  I wouldn't waste my time with such nonsense.  It's like going to someone's house as a guest and being rude.  I just can't understand why people get such a kick out of doing that.  But they must.  Why else would they do it?

----- Original Message ----
From: Christella Garcia <christellablue at gmail.com>
To: Illinois Association of Blind Students List <iabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 3:05:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Iabs-talk] amazing what the ACB believe about the NFB

Hey Connie, I hope you were just kitting.  I don't think it would be 
appropriate to engage in nonproductive behavior.  Two wrongs don't make a 
write.  I am truly frustrated about the negative comments that we have been 
hearing, but I think we as an organization should spend more time focusing 
on positive issues rather than mud slinging.
Chris
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Connie Davis" <condav850 at yahoo.com>
To: "Illinois Association of Blind Students List" <iabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Iabs-talk] amazing what the ACB believe about the NFB

How does one subscribe to the ACB list?  I'd like to go on their list and 
make disparaging remarks about their organization just it's done on our 
lists.

----- Original Message ----
From: Samuel Joehl <sjoehl at yahoo.com>
To: Illinois Association of Blind Students List <iabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Iabs-talk] amazing what the ACB believe about the NFB

I'm equally as amazed by what the NFB believes about the ACB.  A 
disparraging remark was made in the press release sent out by the NFB 
regarding the currency issue stating that the ACB believes that blind people 
need to be taken care of and pitied.  I feel that these organizations waste 
more energy fighting amongst
themselves and attacking each other than they do working on the issues that 
they both agree on, like education and employment - the issues that the NFB 
claims are of greater importance than accessible currency.  It's no wonder 
that we haven't made more progress in gaining equality and opportunity for 
the blind.  What happened to those ideas of collaboration, comradery and 
commitment?  Was that just a catchy aliteration that gets tossed out the 
window when the courts start to side with the "other" organization?

Dave Wright <gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
  Hey guys,
Just wanted to send this to the list to generate some discussion concerning 
the nfb and what we stand for. It's really amazing what the ACB believe and 
tell people about our organization. Perhaps this will give people a chance 
to think about what we really stand for and raise some spirit for our 
organization.
Dave

Hello ACB Leaders and Friends:

I've spent about the last day thinking about something. ACB has
gained a lot of positive media attention with our favorable
ruling in the currency lawsuit. This ruling, if used correctly,
can breathe new life into our membership recruitment efforts and
we must harness the energy from this ruling and begin a huge push
to recruit new members. In every local chapter, state and
special interest affiliate and nationally, we have the
opportunity to tell people what ACB stands for and bring them to
our side.

Often times, all of us have been asked, what do I get for joining
ACB. Well, let me share a few talking points.

ACB takes no government money. Therefore, ACB is the only
consumer based and funded advocacy organization of the blind
working for all people who are blind regardless of where they
come from or their economic status.

ACB works on issues which are important to all people who are
blind, and we don't spend our money on fancy buildings, operating
training centers, and telephone newspaper services which only
benefit some blind people. ACB is working for the blind worker
struggling to find a job, but it's also working for the person
who is blind who struggles to live from month to month on SSI.
ACB is here for the blind vendor, and we're here for the average
person who is blind who simply wants to independently know how
much he or she has in his or her wallet or purse. ACB fights for
the blind person needing mass transit, and we're working for the
family with a blind member who wants to sit down in front of the
tv, break out the popcorn and beverages and equally enjoy a
television program or a movie. ACB stands for independent access
to the ballot and for the blind musician who needs to use Braille
music.

I'm sure there are more talking points that I could come up with.
The point is we have many good reasons to be proud of our ACB and
bring in new members to share that pride with us. I am so proud
ACB doesn't provide training services or build big buildings.
ACB works at the grass roots level for each and every person who
is blind in the United States and across the world.

Ray Campbell, Proud Member, ACB Board of Directors
ray1530 at comcast.net_______________________________________________
Iabs-talk mailing list
Iabs-talk at nfbnet.org
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/iabs-talk
I'm equally as amazed by what the NFB believes about the ACB.  A 
disparraging remark was made in the press release sent out by the NFB 
regarding the currency issue stating that the ACB believes that blind people 
need to be taken care of and pitied.  I feel that these organizations waste 
more energy fighting amongst
themselves and attacking each other than they do working on the issues that 
they both agree on, like education and employment - the issues that the NFB 
claims are of greater importance than accessible currency.  It's no wonder 
that we haven't made more progress in gaining equality and opportunity for 
the blind.  What happened to those ideas of collaboration, comradery and 
commitment?  Was that just a catchy aliteration that gets tossed out the 
window when the courts start to side with the "other" organization?

Dave Wright <gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Hey guys,
Just wanted to send this to the list to generate some discussion concerning 
the nfb and what we stand for. It's really amazing what the ACB believe and 
tell people about our organization. Perhaps this will give people a chance 
to think about what we really stand for and raise some spirit for our 
organization.
Dave
Hello ACB Leaders and Friends:
I've spent about the last day thinking about something. ACB has
gained a lot of positive media attention with our favorable
ruling in the currency lawsuit. This ruling, if used correctly,
can breathe new life into our membership recruitment efforts and
we must harness the energy from this ruling and begin a huge push
to recruit new members. In every local chapter, state and
special interest affiliate and nationally, we have the
opportunity to tell people what ACB stands for and bring them to
our side.
Often times, all of us have been asked, what do I get for joining
ACB. Well, let me share a few talking points.
ACB takes no government money. Therefore, ACB is the only
consumer based and funded advocacy organization of the blind
working for all people who are blind regardless of where they
come from or their economic status.
ACB works on issues which are important to all people who are
blind, and we don't spend our money on fancy buildings, operating
training centers, and telephone newspaper services which only
benefit some blind people. ACB is working for the blind worker
struggling to find a job, but it's also working for the person
who is blind who struggles to live from month to month on SSI.
ACB is here for the blind vendor, and we're here for the average
person who is blind who simply wants to independently know how
much he or she has in his or her wallet or purse. ACB fights for
the blind person needing mass transit, and we're working for the
family with a blind member who wants to sit down in front of the
tv, break out the popcorn and beverages and equally enjoy a
television program or a movie. ACB stands for independent access
to the ballot and for the blind musician who needs to use Braille
music.
I'm sure there are more talking points that I could come up with.
The point is we have many good reasons to be proud of our ACB and
bring in new members to share that pride with us. I am so proud
ACB doesn't provide training services or build big buildings.
ACB works at the grass roots level for each and every person who
is blind in the United States and across the world.
Ray Campbell, Proud Member, ACB Board of Directors
ray1530 at comcast.net_______________________________________________
Iabs-talk mailing list
Iabs-talk at nfbnet.org
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/iabs-talk
_______________________________________________
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Absolutely, Chris.  I wouldn't waste my time with such nonsense.  It's like going to someone's house as a guest and being rude.  I just can't understand why people get such a kick out of doing that.  But they must.  Why else would they do it?
----- Original Message ----
From: Christella Garcia <christellablue at gmail.com>
To: Illinois Association of Blind Students List <iabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 3:05:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Iabs-talk] amazing what the ACB believe about the NFB
Hey Connie, I hope you were just kitting.  I don't think it would be
appropriate to engage in nonproductive behavior.  Two wrongs don't make a
write.  I am truly frustrated about the negative comments that we have been
hearing, but I think we as an organization should spend more time focusing
on positive issues rather than mud slinging.
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Connie Davis" <condav850 at yahoo.com>
To: "Illinois Association of Blind Students List" <iabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Iabs-talk] amazing what the ACB believe about the NFB
How does one subscribe to the ACB list?  I'd like to go on their list and
make disparaging remarks about their organization just it's done on our
lists.
----- Original Message ----
From: Samuel Joehl <sjoehl at yahoo.com>
To: Illinois Association of Blind Students List <iabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Iabs-talk] amazing what the ACB believe about the NFB
I'm equally as amazed by what the NFB believes about the ACB.  A
disparraging remark was made in the press release sent out by the NFB
regarding the currency issue stating that the ACB believes that blind people
need to be taken care of and pitied.  I feel that these organizations waste
more energy fighting amongst
themselves and attacking each other than they do working on the issues that
they both agree on, like education and employment - the issues that the NFB
claims are of greater importance than accessible currency.  It's no wonder
that we haven't made more progress in gaining equality and opportunity for
the blind.  What happened to those ideas of collaboration, comradery and
commitment?  Was that just a catchy aliteration that gets tossed out the
window when the courts start to side with the "other" organization?
Dave Wright <gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
  Hey guys,
Just wanted to send this to the list to generate some discussion concerning
the nfb and what we stand for. It's really amazing what the ACB believe and
tell people about our organization. Perhaps this will give people a chance
to think about what we really stand for and raise some spirit for our
organization.
Dave
Hello ACB Leaders and Friends:
I've spent about the last day thinking about something. ACB has
gained a lot of positive media attention with our favorable
ruling in the currency lawsuit. This ruling, if used correctly,
can breathe new life into our membership recruitment efforts and
we must harness the energy from this ruling and begin a huge push
to recruit new members. In every local chapter, state and
special interest affiliate and nationally, we have the
opportunity to tell people what ACB stands for and bring them to
our side.
Often times, all of us have been asked, what do I get for joining
ACB. Well, let me share a few talking points.
ACB takes no government money. Therefore, ACB is the only
consumer based and funded advocacy organization of the blind
working for all people who are blind regardless of where they
come from or their economic status.
ACB works on issues which are important to all people who are
blind, and we don't spend our money on fancy buildings, operating
training centers, and telephone newspaper services which only
benefit some blind people. ACB is working for the blind worker
struggling to find a job, but it's also working for the person
who is blind who struggles to live from month to month on SSI.
ACB is here for the blind vendor, and we're here for the average
person who is blind who simply wants to independently know how
much he or she has in his or her wallet or purse. ACB fights for
the blind person needing mass transit, and we're working for the
family with a blind member who wants to sit down in front of the
tv, break out the popcorn and beverages and equally enjoy a
television program or a movie. ACB stands for independent access
to the ballot and for the blind musician who needs to use Braille
music.
I'm sure there are more talking points that I could come up with.
The point is we have many good reasons to be proud of our ACB and
bring in new members to share that pride with us. I am so proud
ACB doesn't provide training services or build big buildings.
ACB works at the grass roots level for each and every person who
is blind in the United States and across the world.
Ray Campbell, Proud Member, ACB Board of Directors
ray1530 at comcast.net_______________________________________________
Iabs-talk mailing list
Iabs-talk at nfbnet.org
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/iabs-talk http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/iabs-talk
I'm equally as amazed by what the NFB believes about the ACB.  A
disparraging remark was made in the press release sent out by the NFB
regarding the currency issue stating that the ACB believes that blind people
need to be taken care of and pitied.  I feel that these organizations waste
more energy fighting amongst
themselves and attacking each other than they do working on the issues that
they both agree on, like education and employment - the issues that the NFB
claims are of greater importance than accessible currency.  It's no wonder
that we haven't made more progress in gaining equality and opportunity for
the blind.  What happened to those ideas of collaboration, comradery and
commitment?  Was that just a catchy aliteration that gets tossed out the
window when the courts start to side with the "other" organization?
Dave Wright <gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Hey guys,
Just wanted to send this to the list to generate some discussion concerning
the nfb and what we stand for. It's really amazing what the ACB believe and
tell people about our organization. Perhaps this will give people a chance
to think about what we really stand for and raise some spirit for our
organization.
Dave
Hello ACB Leaders and Friends:
I've spent about the last day thinking about something. ACB has
gained a lot of positive media attention with our favorable
ruling in the currency lawsuit. This ruling, if used correctly,
can breathe new life into our membership recruitment efforts and
we must harness the energy from this ruling and begin a huge push
to recruit new members. In every local chapter, state and
special interest affiliate and nationally, we have the
opportunity to tell people what ACB stands for and bring them to
our side.
Often times, all of us have been asked, what do I get for joining
ACB. Well, let me share a few talking points.
ACB takes no government money. Therefore, ACB is the only
consumer based and funded advocacy organization of the blind
working for all people who are blind regardless of where they
come from or their economic status.
ACB works on issues which are important to all people who are
blind, and we don't spend our money on fancy buildings, operating
training centers, and telephone newspaper services which only
benefit some blind people. ACB is working for the blind worker
struggling to find a job, but it's also working for the person
who is blind who struggles to live from month to month on SSI.
ACB is here for the blind vendor, and we're here for the average
person who is blind who simply wants to independently know how
much he or she has in his or her wallet or purse. ACB fights for
the blind person needing mass transit, and we're working for the
family with a blind member who wants to sit down in front of the
tv, break out the popcorn and beverages and equally enjoy a
television program or a movie. ACB stands for independent access
to the ballot and for the blind musician who needs to use Braille
music.
I'm sure there are more talking points that I could come up with.
The point is we have many good reasons to be proud of our ACB and
bring in new members to share that pride with us. I am so proud
ACB doesn't provide training services or build big buildings.
ACB works at the grass roots level for each and every person who
is blind in the United States and across the world.
Ray Campbell, Proud Member, ACB Board of Directors
ray1530 at comcast.net_______________________________________________
Iabs-talk mailing list
Iabs-talk at nfbnet.org
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