[gui-talk] Of Stupidity and Discovery

Mon Jan 9 01:36:54 UTC 2017

Hi Jen, 

Give Excel another chance. It's quite user-friendly with JAWS. Pay attention
to all the commands JAWS has for Excel. They are very useful.
--
Raf


> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 1:22 AM
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> Cc: Jen <spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Of Stupidity and Discovery
> 
> Hi Rafal,
> 
> Personally, I hate Excel. I think it's because Excel is too visual for me.
> It's a bunch of squares with numbers in them, and you can get lost in it
very
> easily. Word and e-mail are my friends...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rafal
> Charlampowicz via gui-talk
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 2:48 PM
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> Cc: Rafal Charlampowicz <rafalchar at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Of Stupidity and Discovery
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As David wrote, maximizing makes sense on some occasions, though actually
> JAWS should read an opened message.
> Certainly you may need to maximize while working in Excel when you want to
> switch between worksheets (Ctrl+Shift+s in JAWS). If you know that the
> document contains more than a one worksheet, but JAWS, when you press
> Ctrl+Shift+s, says there are no worksheets, press Alt+Space and
> Ctrl+Shift+maximize,
> even if the maximize option is announced as inactive.
> Good luck,
> Raf
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gui-talk [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
> > Goldfield via gui-talk
> > Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 11:08 PM
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> > Cc: David Goldfield <david.goldfield at outlook.com>
> > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Of Stupidity and Discovery
> >
> > Jen,
> >
> > Whatever you may be, you are most certainly not an idiot. I can tell by
> your
> > style of writing that you are an intelligent and adventurous person and
> the
> > fact that you are unafraid to explore and try new things with your
> technology
> > is proof of that. None of us crawled out of the womb knowing what we
> know.
> > <smile>
> >
> > While it technically shouldn't have been necessary to maximize the
window
> in
> > order to view and edit your email, it never hurts to do so and, at
times,
> it can
> > help with situations such as the one you found yourself to be in.
> >
> > Enjoy your technology and please be gentle with yourself. There's no
such
> > thing as a stupid question.
> >
> >
> >            David Goldfield,
> >        Assistive Technology Specialist
> >
> > Feel free to visit my Web site
> > WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info
> >
> > On 1/7/2017 5:01 PM, Jen via gui-talk wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I wanted to give you two updates on my assistive technology
> independence.
> > >
> > > First, the "stupidity part. I'm an idiot.
> > >
> > > Yesterday, I tried to reply to an e-mail, only to discover the top of
my
> > > message was gone! I could read starting from the bottom though. So I
> > > automatically assumed it was an Office problem and spent about an hour
> > > repairing it.
> > >
> > > I went back in to Outlook after the repair and saw the problem still
> > > existed. When I pressed Alt, the only item was a "system menu." There
> were
> > > three items: "restore," "minimize" and "maximize." When I pressed
Enter
> on
> > > "maximize," my whole message magically became legible to JAWS again!
> > >
> > > Up until then, I had never paid any attention to minimizing and
> maximizing
> > > because I assumed they were just visual things. It turns out they do
> matter
> > > because if something is not maximized, the whole thing isn't on the
> screen.
> > >
> > > As for "discovery":
> > >
> > > I am an unapologetic and avid YouTube video watcher. I was exploring
one
> > of
> > > the video pages when JAWS said "seek slider" when I was on the YouTube
> > video
> > > player. I turned "Forms" mode on, pressed the arrow keys ... and
started
> > > moving the video around! I now realize what my sighted friends mean
> when
> > > they talk about, say, "the best part of this video is at 11:00."
> > >
> > > Also, JAWS tells me where the "skip ad" button is. This button will be
> > > getting worn out very soon...
> > >
> > >
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