[gui-talk] Updating Adobe Flash Player

[David Andrews]

Relatively, but not completely.  It runs automatically when you start 
your computer, and you have to left click quickly when it comes 
up.  Or, you can run it manually, where it is more straightforward.

Dave

At 02:51 PM 12/13/2013, you wrote:
>Hi Dave,
>Is it very easy to use? I'm just asking because I'm totally blind 
>and I don't know how to do a lot on the computer, when it comes to 
>updating things.
>thank you.
>Sandra
>
>When Satan is knocking at your door, simply say, "Jesus, could You 
>please get that for me?"
>----- Original Message ----- From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing 
>List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 11:29 AM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Updating Adobe Flash Player
>
>
>>I bought the ninite updater client for my computer.  It runs at 
>>startup and allows you to update things.  I believe it was  $9.95 
>>and is great.  Flash is still in it, and updates.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>At 05:46 AM 12/9/2013, you wrote:
>>
>>>For your information, Adobe Flash Player has not been available 
>>>for download on the Ninite site for a few months, so the only 
>>>option is to download it from the Adobe site.
>>>
>>>Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>>>To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing 
>>>List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 7:00 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Updating Adobe Flash Player
>>>
>>>
>>>>It's never a good idea to use the adobe website to update software.
>>>>Your better option is to use http://www.ninite.com/ and that will
>>>>download an appropriate installer for your hardware and software.  You
>>>>run the installer and ninite.com installs the adobe products for you
>>>>without all that extra garbage.  That's how ninite.com installs
>>>>everything that's available on ninite.com and if you buy the pro
>>>>version, ninite.com will check the manufacturer's sites for you and let
>>>>you know when it's time to install the next updates.  I'm surprised
>>>>ninite.com isn't known about and used more widely on those other blind
>>>>tech lists.  I don't even want to write about adobe reader with jaws 10,
>>>>but that ninite.com site is well worth a visit.
>>>>
>>>>On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, David Andrews wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have forwarded your message to several influencial people 
>>>>>within the NFB.
>>>>>Adobe, in my opinion is one of the worst main-line companies out 
>>>>>there, in my
>>>>>opinion.  In addition to the kinds of things you mention below, 
>>>>>many of their
>>>>>tools for producing PDF's do a terrible job at producing 
>>>>>accessible documents.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>At 04:59 PM 12/5/2013, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >There has been a lot of discussion over the past few days on a 
>>>>> few >blind
>>>>> >tech-related mailing lists about the difficulty of updating Adobe >Flash
>>>>> >Player without also installing unwanted software such as Google
>>>>>Chrome >and
>>>>> >Tool Bar as well as McAfee Security Scan Plus.  A lot of 
>>>>> people have > >been
>>>>> >complaining that the check boxes on the Flash Player download page to
>>>>> >unselect the installation of Google Chrome or McAfee Security 
>>>>> Scan >Plus,
>>>>> >which are checked by default are either totally
>>>>>inaccessible  or >uncheckable
>>>>> >, regardless of which screen reader is used.  Other people have
>>>>>reported >that
>>>>> >the Adobe web site is so inaccessible, that they can't install
>>>>>Flash >Player
>>>>> >at all without sighted help.  This is not an insignificant
>>>>>problem, in >view
>>>>> >of the fact that updates to Flash Player are released pretty
>>>>>frequently >and
>>>>> >need to be installed to patch security flaws in this highly-vulnerable
>>>>> >program, which is used by many web sites, including the
>>>>>popular >Youtube.com.
>>>>> >Can anything be done to force Adobe to make the download page for >Flash
>>>>> >Player more accessible for us blind computer users.  Must we 
>>>>> be forced > >to
>>>>> >install unwanted software because there is no accessible means
>>>>>of >unselecting
>>>>> >it?  Is there anything the NFB can do , such as taking legal
>>>>>action >against
>>>>> >Adobe to force it to make its Flash Player web site more 
>>>>> blind >friendly?
>>>>> >Thanks for any feedback.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Gerald