[gui-talk] Response to "The Hands That Feed"

Peter Donahue pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
Sun Feb 26 21:33:01 UTC 2012


Good afternoon everyone,

Hoping and encouraging is not enough. The resolution was fine as it was.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy at charter.net>
To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List" 
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Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Response to "The Hands That Feed"


In response to this specificly, I do think that deeply disappointed is still 
too strong. Apple has included accessibility in all of their products, and 
it's very well done. Apple has gone well above and beyond the minimum 
requirements, to the point where voiceover is one of the best, if not the 
best screen reader around. I would put the capabilities of voiceover against 
the windows screen readers any day when it comes to functionality and 
useability. For this particular resolution, I would have said something 
like, we hope and encourage apple in the future to require that all approved 
applications be made as accessible as possible, by labeling all controls and 
making all elements of their application readable with the built in 
voiceover screen reader.
On Feb 26, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Curtis Chong wrote:

> Dear Ray:
>
> "With respect to the resolution which the NFB passed at the 2011 
> convention,
> I must strongly disagree; not so much with what your resolution intended 
> to
> do; but rather, with the condemn and deplore language you employed."
>
> As I tried to make clear in my post, the resolution that was passed at the
> NFB 2011 convention did not say 'condemn and deplore" at all.  Yes, there
> was a resolution which I championed which did incorporate "condemn and
> deplore" language, but (as others have pointed out) that resolution did
> fail.  The membership exercised its proper right to determine the course 
> of
> a resolution.
>
> So, having put that aside, do you believe that the resolution that did 
> pass
> was too strongly worded?  I understand you agree with the intent.  I am
> still curious as to your thoughts about the words "frustration" and "deep
> disappointment."
>
> Thank you, Ray.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Curtis Chong
>
>
>
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