[gui-talk] Seeking Guidance On MSIE8

[Mike Freeman]

Steve:

I concur in your assessment. I just switched to IE 9 day-before-yesterday
and, as you say, there are some rough edges (more, perhaps, for those using
screen magnification than for those using speech) but, aside from different
placement of some of the controls we are used to, it's still quite
accessible. And My Lord is it fast!

I'm not sure I'd go back to IE8 -- it's more trouble than it's worth -- but
I might not have switched to IE 9 were it not for a bit of the "aw hell,
let's see what happens" spirit.

My only real stumble was that Flash and windows media Player weren't
detected by web pages and I spent some time going round and round trying to
figure out why, only to discover a checkbox in IE to enable/disable Actibe-X
filtering and once I unchecked this, everything worked like clockwork and,
as I say, lightning fast.

In short, we ought to be wary but IMO we shouldn't raise the alarm -- at
least not yet. We're not on the barricades but perhaps we should be
considering how large our armies should be and who should command them.
(grin)

Mike


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 9:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Seeking Guidance On MSIE8

George,

That has been my experience as well with Microsoft Office.  The change to
the ribbon in Office 2007 was kind of a pain, but I didn't think going from
2007 to 2010 was that much of a change.  While I don't like the ribbon and I
think Microsoft should have given more thought to keyboard shortcuts, I
can't say that it is not accessible.  IE 9 is a major change and while
accessibility was not abandoned, there are some rough edges.  It isn't clear
yet how the changes Microsoft is making to IE 9 and eventually to other
software will affect accessibility.  I think it will reduce some of the
flexibility we currently have and there are some capabilities we may loose,
but it may also make things more stable in the long run.  In some ways,
access technology will be more similar to what is happening in the Apple
world.  I don't mean that keystrokes will change, more that things are going
to tend to be accessible or not accessible with little middle ground.
Therefore, there are things to be concerned about, but I don't think I would
say Microsoft has exactly "abandoned" accessibility, either.  Now they
appear to have abandoned accessible in Windows Mobile 7 for cellphones, but
they have restricted that in other ways as well.  Time will tell what
happens there.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


On Mon, 30 May 2011 11:48:02 -0400, Jorge Paez wrote:

>Not true about office--at least in my experience its been completely
accessible.


>On May 30, 2011, at 3:41 AM, James Pepper wrote:

>> IT is as if microsoft has abandoned accessibility in its new 
>> software, particularly office 2010.  It is very strange.  Dont mess 
>> with a good thing, stay where you are!  And absolutely stay away from 
>> IE 9, it is a disaster area for everyone!
>> 
>> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Rob Tabor <rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>> 
>>> Good evening all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have been using MSIE7 for quite some time, even on my new-to-me 
>>> Asus 644 bit laptop running Windows 7. However, I regularly get 
>>> popup prompts to upgrade to MSIE-8 which I am reluctant to do as 
>>> some have reported screen reader interface problems with JAWS, and I 
>>> have personally experienced this problem when I last attempted it 
>>> with JFW 9. I would like to hear any observations you might have to 
>>> offer as to the interface between IE-8 and JAWS 12. Thanks to all in
advance.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Rob Tabor & White Cane Ra#l Junior
>>> 
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