[gui-talk] will Webvisum be rendered useless?

hawkeye hawkeye at cox.net
Tue Jun 28 14:42:39 UTC 2011


I was addressing the statement that OCR was only in the purview of Kurzweil
and not the screen readers.  If webvisun can do it, it is logical to assume
that the screen reading guys could do it.  As for the constant evolution of
Firefox, that is another issue.As it is now, my version of W/E has problems
with Firefox 4.0 

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 12:07 PM
To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] will Webvisum be rendered useless?

As far as I know, Webvisim has been pretty careful not to say how they solve
CAPTCHAs, but Solona used human beings.

On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:24:25 -0700, hawkeye wrote:

>If that was true about the screen reader developers, how did webvisun do
it?


>-----Original Message-----
>From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
>Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:08 AM
>To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] will Webvisum be rendered useless?

>Hi,

>If the screen reader developers could solve CAPTCHAs, so could 
>spammers.  To solve a CAPTCHA would require some kind of Optical 
>character recognition, but CAPTCHAs are displayed to make this more 
>difficult.  OCR is more a process familiar to Kurzweil than screen 
>reader technology.  This just isn't a simple problem.

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:46:58 -0400, Gerald Levy wrote:


>>The real problem is that the major screen reader companies, FS and GW 
>>Micro, have so far shown absolutely no interest in adding captcha 
>>solving capabilities to JAWS and Window Eyes, respectively.  This 
>>should certainly be technically feasible.


>>Gerald



>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List" 
>><gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:50 AM
>>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] will Webvisum be rendered useless?


>>> Not enough money; not enough personnel. I also heard a rumor that 
>>> the person operating it has been ill.
>>>
>>> If you ask me, *any* service dependent upon human interaction is 
>>> bound to

>>> be less-than-reliable at best.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Jun 27, 2011, at 6:20, Tai Blas <Tai.Blas at blind.state.ia.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is going on with Solona? Every time I try to use it, I am 
>>>> unable
>to.
>>>> Tai
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ______________ _
>>>> Tai Blas
>>>> Transition Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor Iowa Department for 
>>>> the Blind
>>>> 524 Fourth Street
>>>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309
>>>> Office: (515) 281-1253
>>>> Toll-free: (800) 362-2587
>>>> Mobile: (515) 250-2160
>>>> Email: tai.blas at blind.state.ia.us
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> See what your state government is accomplishing at 
>>>> http://www.idbonline.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One Iowa, One Unlimited Future
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>> [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>On
>>>> Behalf Of Gerald Levy
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 3:03 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing 
>>>> List
>>>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] will Webvisum be rendered useless?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This could become a serious problem.  At some point, the software 
>>>> developers at Webvisum will simply give up trying to keep up with 
>>>> each new release of Firefox.  And because Solona is already on life 
>>>> support, there soon may be no captcha solving solutions left.  I 
>>>> suggest hanging onto Firefox 4 or earlier as long as you can.  
>>>> Besides, the screen readers won't be able to keep up with each new
Firefox release, either.
>>>>
>>>> Gerald
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ken lawrence" <kenlawrence124 at aol.com>
>>>> To: <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 5:21 PM
>>>> Subject: [gui-talk] will Webvisum be rendered useless?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ken here.  I read in Kim Komando's email that firefox has 
>>>>> started a new schedule they will be new versions of the browser 
>>>>> every too months.  I just got the update automaticly today and 
>>>>> they are recommending you install it since no more updates will be 
>>>>> made for version 4.  So in two months for example version 6 or 
>>>>> maybe 5 point something or other.
>>>>> Webvisum has been disabled since it isn't updated.  the firefox 
>>>>> browser says it will enable it if it has an update.  But can 
>>>>> webvisum possible keep up with a two months schedule?  is our 
>>>>> capcha solver useless
>thanks
>>>>> to this new timetable by firefox?
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