[gui-talk] Braille Support on the Mac

Tue Jul 13 15:56:36 UTC 2010

Braille support came first on the Mac.  They support a lot of displays.
Indeed, in Windows, you need a Windows screen reader.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Kris Hickerson
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:14 AM
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: [gui-talk] Braille Support on the Mac

Mike, I know we have braille support with the iPhone now, but do the Mac
desktops and laptops offer braille support as well.  And, if you run Windows
on a Mac, am I correct that you have to use another screenreader instead of
VoiceOver?

Kris
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy at charter.net>
To: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>; "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List"
<gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Microsoft security essentials

Actually, macs can exchange files with pcs and pcs with macs. Yes, the
installation of programs is simple, but the user must copy the application,
and then must actually open it. Sure, if a user does that with a program,
not knowing what it is, or not taking the time to be sure it's safe, then
certainly the mac or any other operating system can get infected. Even the
best operating systems cannot protect against stupidity and not using common
sense.
On Jul 12, 2010, at 6:55 PM, qubit wrote:

> the only thing that a windowss groupie could say about that is that Mac
> doesn't get viruses because it is not yet popular enough to have the bad
> guys attacking it.  If it has a simple installation protocol, then it is
> all
> the easier for bad stuff to quietly install itself in there as well.
> I don't know enough to say this is plausible, I'm only speaking from
> general
> experience with unix and windows.
> I'm concerned about interoperability between mac and pc.    I have an old
> mac that I hardle ever use.  Virtually all of my activity is on my windows
> laptops.
> I want to move to mac for some activities but worry I won't be able to
> exchange files between mac and pc without compatibility problems.
> Has anyone else resolved this problem?
> TIA
> --le
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy at charter.net>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Microsoft security essentials
>
>
> I suppose what I am about to say could be considered a shot at windows,
> though that is not what I am intending here, indeed, if someone is going
> to
> say something is better than something else, they should provide reasons
> for
> it. So, I will provide a few reasons why I think the mac operating system
> is
> better, aside from the fact that the screen reader is built in of course.
> The fact that it's much more difficult to get a virus on the mac has
> already
> been covered, so let's look at a few other things, particularly with
> applications. As someone who works in tech support, I get several calls
> from
> users attempting to install our software, and receive errors that files
> cannot register, or there are conflicts with different versions of the
> same
> file on someone's system. The mac does not have these problems. In most
> cases, the application is simply copied to the applications folder, and
> when
> it is run, it creates the preference files that it will use. If you want
> to
> uninstall a program, simply delete it from the applications folder, and go
> to your library folder and delete the preference files. No need to worry
> about shared files, and no left over entries cluttering up a registry.
> Clearly, when it comes to applications, the mac operating system has a
> better approach
> On Jul 11, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>
>> Well, of course, point taken.  Now, here's the funny thing about that.  I
>> find myself now doing the very thing I said I would never do.  Gives one
>> pause for thought doesn't it?  Looks like you win one.
>>
>> Sorry about that.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>> E-Mail:
>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:47 AM, David Andrews wrote:
>>
>>> Why is it that Mac users almost always have to take a shot at Windows?
>>> If I want religion I will go to church.  If I want to do some work I
>>> will
>>> use the computer/OS of my choice!
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> At 08:05 AM 7/10/2010, you wrote:
>>>> Frankly, I'd have to agree with Mike.  IF you feel you must continue to
>>>> run Windows, (for what ever strange reason), Just couldn't resist
>>>> that...yes, Microsoft Security Essentials is indeed a good solution.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>>                      David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com
>>> Follow me on Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
>>>
>>>
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