[gui-talk] Still hassling with my laptop keyboard

Sat Jan 2 18:12:55 UTC 2010

I'll keep at it, stiff upper lip and all that. But as I said to Geetha, I 
can't just give up my desktop in order to train on the laptop. I have a lot 
of work to do, every day. I'd have a nervous breakdown if for no other 
reason I stopped using my desktop, just to sit around and sweat over the 
laptop and manage to get around all it mysteries, the hair-trigger 
adjustment of most of its keys and its odd propensity for suddenly going to 
the Desktop just because I let a fingertip some key or other, or getting a 
noisy Sticky Keys explanation when in fact I hadn't been anywhere *near* the 
Shift key.

But I'll keep at it. At this point, I'm just persisting in case I wind up 
again in the hospital and would like to read newspapers, do email, and work 
on my writing while I'm there instead of being cast adrift.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "davidw" <dwermuth1 at earthlink.net>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Still hassling with my laptop keyboard

Hello Joel,

Don't give up just give it time.  I use a lap top only even with my desk top
next to me.  To be honest you'll have to quit using the regular keyboard and
use your laptop exclusively.  When I first got my lap top I had a hard time
(almost went flying towards a wall several times, I know how your feeling)
as well with what you describe but after a while of using your lap top
you'll notice it is much easier to use then a desk top keyboard, at least I
do.  Just hang in there Buddy!

When your typing away on your lap top either button up your long sleeve
shirt or your sleeve cuff's will sometimes run across the mouse and put you
wherever.  Happens a lot when I forget so I just roll them up.

All I can say is that it takes time and patience.

David Wermuth
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
To: "GUI-Talk" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:14 PM
Subject: [gui-talk] Still hassling with my laptop keyboard

> Hi listers,
>
> Okay, please come clean. I know some of us are totally blind and some are
> partial. I'm partial, myself, but I have no central vision thus can't read
> at all with my eyes. Only with Jaws, recorded literature, and so forth. So
> in dealing with this new machine of mine, which I'd hoped would be a handy
> tool, I'm at a loss.
>
> I thought I'd be able to get the hang of the keyboard with some effort.
> it's
> an Acer with a number key pad so I don't have to learn the Jaws laptop key
> commands.
>
> but still there's no space between the keys and the sections of keys as
> I'm
> accustomed to on a normal keyboard, and no matter how patiently I sit and
> turn on Jaws Keyboard Help to explore and get the lay of the land, so to
> speak, I just am finding it nearly impossible to operate the machine.
>
> Please bear in mind that I'm a pretty damn good touch typist, plus a Jaws
> user from way back with the current release. Ordinary stuff like that is
> not
> impeding me. But try as I might, my fingers just can't figure out where
> keys
> are, except in small, lucky instances and a few keys I happen to have
> taught
> myself by now. I don't think this is gonna work.
>
> I know I can get a USB keyboard to plug into this laptop, then set the
> computer within earshot and sit back with only the keyboard on my lap. But
> this ain't what I'd daydreamed about. I guess I didn't anticipate
> realistically how tough this would be to do blind.
>
> Please just tell the truth, guys. I think a number of you are using
> laptops,
> at least as your secondary computers. How many of you actually use your
> laptops (mine's an Acer PC, for what that matters) normally, and how many
> use an auxiliary keyboard? Am I in a very low-skill class, sort of, if I
> can't figure out how to type on something like this the way sighted people
> do with their own laptops?
>
> Ug. Bummed out. thanks for any helpful feedback.
> and Happy New Year.
>
> Joel
>
>
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