[gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on myharddrive

Wed Oct 14 00:48:50 UTC 2009

*.mp3

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 4:32 PM
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on
myharddrive

I've done that, too. It's all over now, Baby Blue. let's forget it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on 
myharddrive

Hi Albert -- well the only problem with that is that the mp3 songs have file
names that start with the track number on the album -- 06 or 11 or whatever.
So first letter navigation doesn't make much sense.
What I was wondering, is there a way to search for a file name containing a
string and ending with .mp3? like maybe *sunset*.mp3 or whatever.

If so, this would make it possible to narrow the search.
--le
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on
myharddrive

Joel, your estimation of the degree of difficulty using Ray's method: using
the file name isn't as hard as you believe.  When the search list comes up
you can review it  with the links list key insert F7 or I think first letter
navigation so you won't have to read that many file titles.

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:14 PM
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on
myharddrive

Ray, yes and besides I *said* I'd done that. I said so in one of my own
emails, some time ago. No offense. I mean, Wayne just suggested that even
though, as I say, I'm sure I offered earlier that I'd run a search, and I
mean vigorously, using all sorts of input. Let's just let it go, okay?
They'll call me, I'll ask for their permission to try it again at no charge,

and this will have been an interesting and educational experience I wouldn't

even have had time for if I were saner and more conventionally
well-occupied. To be honest.

thanks again,
Joel
experiodaid so
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>
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Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on
myharddrive

Has anybody suggested that you use windows+F and then type in part of the
file name?  If that doesn't work, I don't know what else to tell you.

Sincerely,
The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on
myharddrive

Wayne,

First first of all, if I could simply remember the exact path that was there
originally, why couldn't I simply change it back in Preferences? But that's
a moot question, because I can't remember exactly how that goes and it
doesn't stay around in a combo box or anything like that once you've typed
something else in that field. So if for no other reason, your suggestion is
the only way I could return that to the default.

That said, where's the logic, here? I mean, the files are already somewhere
on my hard drive, I suppose, even though I can't find them. Or vanished into
thin air in the course of being downloaded, which my account says was done
successfully.

So I mean, how is changing the destination back to the default going to move
those files back to where they're meant to  to reside? Such a thing wouldn't
happen if I were to change the download destination in my usual IE download
function. Files I'd already downloaded would stay just where I'd put them,
originally. They wouldn't be moved somewhere else simply because I changed
the target path in the IE function.

thanks for thinking this through with me. I'd like to understand the logic
of the thinking or how tithing work.

BTW, I used the internal messaging system on Amazon mp3 help last night to
write and explain my problem and request to be called by phone. that should
get me someone to do business with over this issue. Oddly, when you press
Send Message there, the page doesn't seem to change (not that I could hear
with Jaws, anyway) and you don't get a new page that says Thanks for ending
Your Message. Or anything like that, for confirmation. The page stays the
same, as if you've never pressed the send button. So I pressed it again.

Left me a little troubled, though, as you may imagine.

Joel

(who is not really a Surrender Monkey but does enjoy a good red Bordeaux now
and then, and has never renamed french fries as "freedom fries")

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on
myharddrive

Joel: have you considered redownloading the Amazon downloader software
again, but this time not changing the default download location?
perhaps by doing this, you'll be abel to find your music again.

Wayne

On 10/12/09, Joel Deutsch <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com> wrote:
> Ray,
>
> as I said, I was just kidding about freebies. Plus from what I hear, far
> from everyone in those email-connected groups is blind. Far from it. But
> of
> course I only heard that somewhere. I would not want you to think I was
> some
> sort of Bolshevik or something like that, God forbid!
>
> as for the music folder, it is not where you think it ought to be. you
> have
> not read my messages where I have said more than once that I changed the
> default download destination. I do not want to repeat myself.
>
> Thank you very much. Again, I was only kidding about those freebies. Hope
> that's clear. I guess it was just a bad joke. I believe in self-reliance
> in
> every way, believe me. From the bottom of my heart. Anyone who doesn't is
> no
> American, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe French or something. And not
> Bayou
> Cajun French, either. Real French. Red frogs. hate 'em. Don't y'all worry,
> my brother. LOL.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on
> myharddrive
>
>
> Wayne, can you ever say that again.  I just can't abide the stupidity of
> some blind people who think it's okay to break the law just because we're
> blind; and, in most cases, on limited income.  Amazon's mp3 store is, so
> far
> as I am concerned, one of the best things I've come across.
>
> Joel, finding your Amazon mp3 downloads should be a very simple thing.  As
> a
> rule, there is a folder just off the route of your My Music directlry
> called
> Amazon mp3.  Within this structure, is the artist folder.  Inside of this,
> you'll find the album folder.  Nested inside
> this folder are the songs themselves.  This holds true even if you buy
> only
> one song.  In my case, I did change the place where Amazon mp3 downloader
> puts my material because I don't want any audio on my primary hard drive.
> I've told the Amazon mp3 downloader to place all purchased mp3 files on my
> 500GB USB hard drive.  That, though, is a matter of personal preference.
> What's so hard about that?
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
>
> "Old friend, what are you looking for?  After those many years abroad you
> come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from your own
> land"
> George Seferis
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on
> myharddrive
>
>
> Joel: if i were you, I wouldn't worry about online sites getting into
> your system. Yes, I suppose it's possible, but I don't genrally spend
> my time worrying about what could happen on the web. As long as you
> have appropriate security software on your system and buy your music
> from a reputable site like Amazon, then you've got nothing to worry
> about. Also, this being a public list and all, I don't know if I'd
> admit to getting free music from whatever website in another country.
> Have people done it? Certainly, but now we get our songs from purchase
> sites like Amazon. Actually, given all of the ups and downs in the
> music world with record companies trying to control their music, I'm
> glad that the major labels are now allowing their songs to go through
> sites like Amazon. Though this is a great arrangement, unfortunately
> it tooks some blood, sweat and tears before it got to this point. I'm
> all for supporting what works. Hey, if you don't end up getting the
> Amazon songs to work on your system, you can always go back to the
> tradditional method of buying the CD and ripping it onto your system.
>
> One other thing: once you buy the song from Amazon, you can do
> whatever with it, be it playing on your computer, sending to a mobile
> device, or I suppose even giving it to someone else. Though since the
> songs are so cheap and can be gotten so easily, I wouldn't give
> someone a song I got for a buck. In other words, there's not any
> restrictions on how or what you can do with music from Amazon. For
> whatever reason, not all paid music sites can say this. Also, not all
> paid music sites allow you to keep playing songs that you bought after
> you stop using the site. So we've really got a great deal going with
> Amazon. It's definitely a model I can get behind and promote.
>
> Good luck,
> Wayne
>
> On 10/11/09, Joel Deutsch <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> hi Wayne,
>>
>> I figured most of this, but you shed new light on it beyond what I'd
>> thought
>> of. And as I have tried to say, I didn't mess up downloading and
>> installing
>> the Amazon Downloader. I realize what you mean by Explorer bar, and I
>> know
>> about alt n although I didn't know you had to switch to a fake mouse
>> button
>> in order to bring up a menu there. I've never really had to bother with
>> any
>> of this, at least not for a long time, for some reason . So I learned
>> about
>> it and obviously forgot it. I suppose that was why I heard a peculiar
>> Bing!
>> sound at some point during all these things I was doing? That's the
>> signal
>> that you have to press alt N? Well, somehow I got through all of that
>> without a problem. The downloder installation, I mean.
>>
>> I'll  bet if I'd not changed the preferences and just allowed Amazon to
>> put
>> its stuff where it wanted to, I could have done just what you did and
>> then
>> find the stuff and copy it to a more convenient place to play it.
>> Although
>> I
>> don't get why you couldn't literally "move" those files or delete them.
>> Must
>> be that they are sort of on your computer but they're actually linked to
>> where you got them from, and in fact Amazon could delete them if they
>> wanted
>> to, the way they recently deleted some purchased books from customers'
>> Kindles for reasons not worth going into here. I sort of don't like this
>> sort of online thing because I'm almost sure you don't really own the
>> files
>> you've bought, and I'll bet they're protected in some way from your
>> sending
>> them to someone else, or whatever. it's a little too Big Brother for my
>> taste. then I'm thinking, well, I'm a customer of audible.com, with many
>> of
>> their spoken books on my computer, but I know those files are protected
>> in
>> some way, can't be played other than by the Audible reader, called
>> Audible
>> manager, I guess, and maybe if they wanted to, they could get into my PC
>> and
>> delete some of those books, just as Amazon's done with Kindle people. Oh,
>> well. Can't mess my mind up thinking about this too much, i guess.
>>
>> Back to music: I have some music files on my machine, but they're mostly
>> either gotten from certain online sources that post stuff to SendSpace
>> and
>> that other, more notorious (if you read the news) server based in
>> Switzerland, and those are completely mine once I've gotten them. The
>> other
>> music files on my PC are ones I've ripped from my own CDs, so there's no
>> one
>> involved in this but me. And if I really want something and it's in
>> print,
>> so to speak, I'll just buy the CD at Amazon and then own the music, for
>> real.
>>
>> Still, I want to solve this thing. It's only five bucks out of my pocket,
>> but this album isn't easily available on CD anymore and it just seemed
>> like
>> a cool idea, so I went with the flow. Or tried to, anyway.
>>
>> thanks for the moral support and the advice.
>> From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 1:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on
>> myharddrive
>>
>>
>> For what it's worth, the keystroke to get to the information bar in IE
>> is alt with N, then a right click of the JAWS mouse button will bring
>> up a context menu where you can choose to download/download all. I too
>> have not had any major problems when using the Amazon MP3 store,
>> except in the beginning when I had to get to the information bar or
>> when I had to manually start the download process. I've not changed
>> the default download location for the Amazon tracks, but rather have
>> gone into the specified folder and copied/moved the tracks to my music
>> area on my computer. I haven't done anything with the folders of the
>> artists and albums. Initially I tried to delete them, but after
>> awhile, didn't worry about this part. I hope you can get this resolved
>> Joel since Amazon is perhaps one of the few resources that lets you
>> get unprotected and unrestricted music from. Personally, I refuse to
>> use iTunes due to it's narcissistic nature, of only allowing certain
>> kinds of music to be played and only in their own system. Too
>> restrictive for me. Besides, you can't beat an accessible web
>> interface. I think the hardest thing of the Amazon store for me was
>> getting that initial download of the Amazon MP3 Downloader software on
>> my system. Once there though, it's been extremely easy, especially
>> when you set and turn on your one click settings on the Amazon site.
>> this way, once they're setup and your credit card information is
>> entered, you can just activate the buy track link, and everything
>> happens in the background.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Wayne
>>
>> On 10/11/09, Tai Blas <taiablas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Oops, that was supposed to say link. On the amazon contact pages for
>>> customer service problems, you can have amazon call you back at a
>>> specified
>>> telephone number. Their tech support can allow you to redownload the
>>> track.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:51 AM
>>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on
>>> myharddrive
>>>
>>> It seemed to me that the updloader downloaded and isntalled. I cal find
>>> it
>>> right here under my start/programs menus. As I've said. And the Amazon
>>> site
>>> under my account reports these files as all downloaded. From their side
>>> it
>>> looks as if I've been successful. But I can't find the music anywhere on
>>> my
>>> computer.
>>>
>>> What do you mean by that dsentence including the word "kinks?" I don't
>>> understand what you mean by that sentence.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on my
>>> harddrive
>>>
>>>
>>> When you purchased the album, did you get a download dialog box asking
>>> whether you wanted to open or save the download? If not, there was a
>>> link
>>> that said to click it if your download did not begin. If you did get the
>>> dialog asking you to chose to open or save, you need to choose open
>>> instead
>>> of save. This activates the amazon mp3 downloader and begins your
>>> download
>>> in the background. If you cannot download the file, find out the kink to
>>> contact amazon and you can have amazon call you at the number you
>>> specify.
>>> Their mp3 downloads department can then allow you to redownload your
>>> purchased tracks.
>>> HTH
>>> Tai
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:29 AM
>>> To: GUI-Talk
>>> Subject: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on my hard
>>> drive
>>>
>>> For the first time, I purchased a digital album from Amazon today. I had
>>> to
>>> download and install the Amazon mp3 Downloader, which I did
>>> successfully,
>>> and then I bought the album and I guess it downloaded, though I didn't
>>> see
>>> any sort of dialogue on the screen (I'm partial).
>>>
>>> Now, before I say more, let me say that before I made this purchase, I
>>> went
>>> into the amazon mp3 downloader Preferences and changed two things:
>>>
>>> 1. I changed the download destination from their default, which is a sub
>>> sub
>>> sub directory under Documents and Setting/Admin blah blah blah, to a
>>> simple
>>> folder that I'd created on my hard drive, called c:/my music. This isn't
>>> the
>>> "my music" folder that I've noticed up above the C drive under My
>>> documents,
>>> whatever all that's about. I don't go up there (I use Windows Explorer
>>> and
>>> that's why I think of it as "up there") and have no idea what that stuff
>>> is.
>>>
>>> This is Win XP Home, by the way.
>>>
>>> Now, I've gone into my account on Amazon and looked up my recent
>>> purchase
>>> history specifically of digital downloads. And there it is, a record of
>>> my
>>> having downloeded this album, with all its tracks listed. A fait
>>> accomplis,
>>> it would seem.
>>>
>>> but no, I can't find the album, its tracks, or the folder Amazon mp3
>>> anywhere on my hard drive, including under c:/my music. Huh? I've looked
>>> and
>>> look, using the Search. No luck at all.
>>>
>>> BTW, the other item I changed in Preferences was to disable the option
>>> of
>>> having the downloader put such files into my Windows Media Player
>>> playlist
>>> or library or hwatever that is. I don't know how to use that sort of
>>> thing.
>>> I just wanted to find the files themselves in a folder, click on them,
>>> and
>>> play them in Winamp.
>>>
>>> To anyone for whom the above is clear, can you advise?as I say, the
>>> record
>>> at the Amazon site confirms that I've downloaded this material, but I
>>> can't
>>> find it on my computer, no way.
>>>
>>> Help me before I lose my mind. I mean the rest of my mind. It's only a
>>> few
>>> bucks, but I really wanted to listen to the album.
>>>
>>> thanks. Hope I made good enough sense here.
>>>
>>> Joel
>>>
>>>
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