[gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on myharddrive

Sun Oct 11 23:25:52 UTC 2009

hi Wayne,

I figured most of this, but you shed new light on it beyond what I'd thought 
of. And as I have tried to say, I didn't mess up downloading and installing 
the Amazon Downloader. I realize what you mean by Explorer bar, and I know 
about alt n although I didn't know you had to switch to a fake mouse button 
in order to bring up a menu there. I've never really had to bother with any 
of this, at least not for a long time, for some reason . So I learned about 
it and obviously forgot it. I suppose that was why I heard a peculiar Bing! 
sound at some point during all these things I was doing? That's the signal 
that you have to press alt N? Well, somehow I got through all of that 
without a problem. The downloder installation, I mean.

I'll  bet if I'd not changed the preferences and just allowed Amazon to put 
its stuff where it wanted to, I could have done just what you did and then 
find the stuff and copy it to a more convenient place to play it. Although I 
don't get why you couldn't literally "move" those files or delete them. Must 
be that they are sort of on your computer but they're actually linked to 
where you got them from, and in fact Amazon could delete them if they wanted 
to, the way they recently deleted some purchased books from customers' 
Kindles for reasons not worth going into here. I sort of don't like this 
sort of online thing because I'm almost sure you don't really own the files 
you've bought, and I'll bet they're protected in some way from your sending 
them to someone else, or whatever. it's a little too Big Brother for my 
taste. then I'm thinking, well, I'm a customer of audible.com, with many of 
their spoken books on my computer, but I know those files are protected in 
some way, can't be played other than by the Audible reader, called Audible 
manager, I guess, and maybe if they wanted to, they could get into my PC and 
delete some of those books, just as Amazon's done with Kindle people. Oh, 
well. Can't mess my mind up thinking about this too much, i guess.

Back to music: I have some music files on my machine, but they're mostly 
either gotten from certain online sources that post stuff to SendSpace and 
that other, more notorious (if you read the news) server based in 
Switzerland, and those are completely mine once I've gotten them. The other 
music files on my PC are ones I've ripped from my own CDs, so there's no one 
involved in this but me. And if I really want something and it's in print, 
so to speak, I'll just buy the CD at Amazon and then own the music, for 
real.

Still, I want to solve this thing. It's only five bucks out of my pocket, 
but this album isn't easily available on CD anymore and it just seemed like 
a cool idea, so I went with the flow. Or tried to, anyway.

thanks for the moral support and the advice.
From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on 
myharddrive

For what it's worth, the keystroke to get to the information bar in IE
is alt with N, then a right click of the JAWS mouse button will bring
up a context menu where you can choose to download/download all. I too
have not had any major problems when using the Amazon MP3 store,
except in the beginning when I had to get to the information bar or
when I had to manually start the download process. I've not changed
the default download location for the Amazon tracks, but rather have
gone into the specified folder and copied/moved the tracks to my music
area on my computer. I haven't done anything with the folders of the
artists and albums. Initially I tried to delete them, but after
awhile, didn't worry about this part. I hope you can get this resolved
Joel since Amazon is perhaps one of the few resources that lets you
get unprotected and unrestricted music from. Personally, I refuse to
use iTunes due to it's narcissistic nature, of only allowing certain
kinds of music to be played and only in their own system. Too
restrictive for me. Besides, you can't beat an accessible web
interface. I think the hardest thing of the Amazon store for me was
getting that initial download of the Amazon MP3 Downloader software on
my system. Once there though, it's been extremely easy, especially
when you set and turn on your one click settings on the Amazon site.
this way, once they're setup and your credit card information is
entered, you can just activate the buy track link, and everything
happens in the background.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 10/11/09, Tai Blas <taiablas at gmail.com> wrote:
> Oops, that was supposed to say link. On the amazon contact pages for
> customer service problems, you can have amazon call you back at a 
> specified
> telephone number. Their tech support can allow you to redownload the 
> track.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:51 AM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on
> myharddrive
>
> It seemed to me that the updloader downloaded and isntalled. I cal find it
> right here under my start/programs menus. As I've said. And the Amazon 
> site
> under my account reports these files as all downloaded. From their side it
> looks as if I've been successful. But I can't find the music anywhere on 
> my
> computer.
>
> What do you mean by that dsentence including the word "kinks?" I don't
> understand what you mean by that sentence.
>
> Thank you very much.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on my
> harddrive
>
>
> When you purchased the album, did you get a download dialog box asking
> whether you wanted to open or save the download? If not, there was a link
> that said to click it if your download did not begin. If you did get the
> dialog asking you to chose to open or save, you need to choose open 
> instead
> of save. This activates the amazon mp3 downloader and begins your download
> in the background. If you cannot download the file, find out the kink to
> contact amazon and you can have amazon call you at the number you specify.
> Their mp3 downloads department can then allow you to redownload your
> purchased tracks.
> HTH
> Tai
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:29 AM
> To: GUI-Talk
> Subject: [gui-talk] Can't find Amazon mp3 downloaded album on my hard 
> drive
>
> For the first time, I purchased a digital album from Amazon today. I had 
> to
> download and install the Amazon mp3 Downloader, which I did successfully,
> and then I bought the album and I guess it downloaded, though I didn't see
> any sort of dialogue on the screen (I'm partial).
>
> Now, before I say more, let me say that before I made this purchase, I 
> went
> into the amazon mp3 downloader Preferences and changed two things:
>
> 1. I changed the download destination from their default, which is a sub 
> sub
> sub directory under Documents and Setting/Admin blah blah blah, to a 
> simple
> folder that I'd created on my hard drive, called c:/my music. This isn't 
> the
> "my music" folder that I've noticed up above the C drive under My 
> documents,
> whatever all that's about. I don't go up there (I use Windows Explorer and
> that's why I think of it as "up there") and have no idea what that stuff 
> is.
>
> This is Win XP Home, by the way.
>
> Now, I've gone into my account on Amazon and looked up my recent purchase
> history specifically of digital downloads. And there it is, a record of my
> having downloeded this album, with all its tracks listed. A fait 
> accomplis,
> it would seem.
>
> but no, I can't find the album, its tracks, or the folder Amazon mp3
> anywhere on my hard drive, including under c:/my music. Huh? I've looked 
> and
> look, using the Search. No luck at all.
>
> BTW, the other item I changed in Preferences was to disable the option of
> having the downloader put such files into my Windows Media Player playlist
> or library or hwatever that is. I don't know how to use that sort of 
> thing.
> I just wanted to find the files themselves in a folder, click on them, and
> play them in Winamp.
>
> To anyone for whom the above is clear, can you advise?as I say, the record
> at the Amazon site confirms that I've downloaded this material, but I 
> can't
> find it on my computer, no way.
>
> Help me before I lose my mind. I mean the rest of my mind. It's only a few
> bucks, but I really wanted to listen to the album.
>
> thanks. Hope I made good enough sense here.
>
> Joel
>
>
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