[gui-talk] 2009 NFB Convention Agenda

Steve Jacobson steve.jacobson at visi.com
Sat May 23 18:16:28 UTC 2009


Joel,

I had the same experience with another mail program.  We have seen this before but don't know the exact combination 
of circumstances that cause the problem.  It is some combination of attachments and the mail program being used and 
perhaps even settings within that mail program.  As you know, there are many settings such as the type of encoding 
used and such that most of us do not deal with.  Unfortunately, if you forward the message, one of two things can 
happen.  The added layer of forwarding can make the problem go away, or another mailer and set of settings may treat 
the message just fine.  In other words, this is hard to isolate because the same message can be handled differently by 
different mailers.  Since I use a program called PMMail which few people use, I don't usually bother complaining about 
problems that affect that program specifically, but I know this particular problem happens occasionally with other 
programs, too and I thought the list should know that you are not the only one encountering this.

On Sat, 23 May 2009 09:51:45 -0700, Joel Deutsch wrote:

>If this is addressed to me, I have to say that my email was empty except for 
>the GUI-Talk boilerplate about the unsub drill and the usual stuff. I'm 
>sorry if when I forwarded back to the list exactly what I received, someone 
>like you actually found text within the message area. It isn't there for me. 
>I'm running Jaws 10 and ONE 6, for what it matters. Maybe my Jaws went blind 
>and could not see anything but the unsub boilerplate? Believe what you wish. 
>I have tried mightily to explain, and even forwarded back for everyone to se 
>the exact thing that I received. I get little but a big harrumph, and so 
>some to a point where I think I've invested enough time and worry into this 
>without getting any helpful explanations as to what may have gone wrong or 
>been defective.

>I have no fear of going to the NFB site to find the schedule and will do so 
>if Lloyd's cut and paste seems inadequate for any reason, which I doubt it 
>will. it just seemed that receiving it in an email to read that way was an 
>awfully nice convenience. Well intended, I'm sure. Still don't know what the 
>two attachments, one of them with a .jpg, the other looking like the 
>attachments that arrive with some rejected email notifications, named 
>att.text, often bogus things that are part of a malware strategy. But it's 
>all right, now. In fact it's a gas. All the boy wanted here was a bit of 
>freedom of information. And he got it without having to solve such an 
>annoying tech puzzle without help.

>all best,
>Joel
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 8:38 AM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] 2009 NFB Convention Agenda


>I don't know what you are looking at.  I sent out the text in the
>body of an e-mail message, and that is what came back to me here.

>Dave

>p.s.  The Agenda is also at www.nfb.org

>Dave


>At 07:23 PM 5/22/2009, you wrote:
>>Dave,
>>
>>I'd love to see the agenda and schedule, but I can't figure out how. There
>>are two file attachments with this email. One is a .jpg extension, which
>>when I open I see only a small dark rectangle in the middle of my screen,
>>which  must be a picture of some sort, and there's nothing for Jaws to 
>>read,
>>of  course.


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