[gui-talk] [Bulk] Re: Voiceover

Chris G chris at mysticplace.org
Sun Jul 26 10:45:21 UTC 2009


Hi,
That's the Multitouch track pad on the newer MacBook pros.

Chris

On Jul 26, 2009, at 2:59 AM, tunecollector wrote:

> I thought I read that the new Voiceover would allow me to navigate a  
> page
> with my finger on a special pad.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk- 
> bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:05 PM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [gui-talk] Voiceover
>
> Hi. Allow me to answer your question about each type of program. First
> the office suite. Microsoft Office is not accessible on the mac,
> however there are 2 alternatives. Open Office version 3 for the mac is
> accessible with voice over, so is Apple's office suite, i work version
> 9. Both of these suites will open and save Microsoft Office files. The
> word processor that comes with the mac, called text edit, will open
> and save Microsoft Word files, even version 2007.
> For playing and ripping media, there are several choices. Itunes will
> play CDS, as well as rip them to your hard drive. It can also play
> streaming media. There are also 2 other players that I know of. Quick
> time will play several media types, and there is a plug in you can
> install that will allow quick time to play windows media files as well
> as windows media streams. Another player worth considering is the vlc
> player. This plays windows media as well as .ogg files.
> Adobe reader is not needed on the mac, there is a program included
> with the mac called preview. This will open pdf files, and you can
> start reading right away, no waiting for the document to be prepared
> for reading.
> For the web, the safari browser works great, and you have access to
> much of the same functions such as moving by link heading, etc. There
> is also no forms mode to worry about, just move to the control and
> start typing, works very well. Let me know if you are concerned about
> any other applications.
> On Jul 25, 2009, at 6:04 PM, albert griffith wrote:
>
>> Hello Curtis:
>> If someone needs to access, Ms. Office, a media player to rip, burn,
>> organize and play files along with managing place markers in a wide
>> range of
>> file types
>> will the voiceover work? This person has to access the acrobat
>> reader, an
>> instant messenger and an internet browser.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-
>> bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Curtis Chong
>> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:56 PM
>> To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: [gui-talk] Voiceover
>>
>> On July 25, 2009, Kevin Fjelsted wrote in relevant part:
>>
>> "The fact that the NFB technology center chooses to publish
>> inaccuracies and
>> propaganda which is so misleading must mean that the existing
>> companies like
>> Freedom Scientific are running scared and trying to rally resources
>> to quash
>> VoiceOver usage."
>>
>> Having managed the International Braille and Technology Center for
>> five
>> years, I think I can say with some credibility that the Braille
>> Monitor
>> article which Kevin refers to was not intended to be deliberately
>> inaccurate.  Nor was it intended to (as he says) "quash VoiceOver
>> usage."
>>
>> The article that was published in the June edition of the Braille
>> Monitor
>> was clearly written from the perspective of a community which, in
>> the main,
>> has strong familiarity with the Windows operating system, Windows-
>> based
>> screen access technology, and Windows conventions.  Having read the
>> article
>> myself and reviewed some of the responses to it, I would acknowledge
>> that
>> the article can be said to contain some inaccuracies and erroneous
>> conclusions.  However, the perspective of the author, while not that
>> of a
>> VoiceOver user, is reflective of the majority of blind computer
>> users who,
>> today, are familiar with Windows.  Clearly, the author of the
>> article was
>> not aware that there is a very dedicated community of blind people
>> who have
>> developed a high degree of understanding, competence, and
>> sophistication
>> with VoiceOver and the Macintosh.  The article would have been well
>> served
>> if the author had been able to talk with some of these people.
>>
>> This may have been the case when the article was written, but I am
>> confident
>> that the voices of the Macintosh and VoiceOver community have been
>> heard and
>> are even now being consulted.
>>
>> Cordially,
>>
>> Curtis Chong
>>
>>
>>
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