[gui-talk] Voiceover

Mike Arrigo n0oxy at charter.net
Sat Jul 25 23:40:23 UTC 2009


I have also done 9 macintosh pod casts on blindcooltech.com, and pod  
cast number 8 is dedicated to demonstrating how wrong this article is.  
It's one thing to say the article is wrong, but demonstrating it  
leaves no doubt.
On Jul 25, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Kevin Fjelsted wrote:

> The NFB article is located at
> http://tinyurl.com/ndplsk
> I recommend that you also read a review of that article at
> http://tinyurl.com/l2samj
>
> -Kevin
>
> On 7/25/09, albert griffith <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Hi Kevin, I'm definitely purchasing a new machine in the next  
>> couple of
>> months and I'm seriously considering a Mac.  I'd like to read the NFB
>> articles of which you speak with all their inaccuracies but I don't  
>> know
>> where to locate them.  Can you tell me where to go to read them?  I  
>> don't
>> need an exact URL just the general area will do.  thanks
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk- 
>> bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Kevin Fjelsted
>> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 1:50 PM
>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Voiceover
>>
>> VoiceOver is absolutely awesome. A superb resource for reading  
>> details
>> from a community perspective is http://www.lioncourt.com.
>> I thhink that the exciting thing about VoiceOver is that the stars  
>> are
>> aligned for us. 1) Apple is making record profits and is applying
>> resources in support of  VoiceOver access across there entire product
>> line including mobile devices. The fact that the NFB technology  
>> center
>> chooses to publish inaccuracies and propaganda
>> which is so misleading must mean that the existing companies like
>> Freedom Scientific are running scared and trying to rally resources  
>> to
>> quash VoiceOver usage. When ever we see established organizations
>> becoming defensive it is time to really dig under the covers and ask
>> the reasons why. In my opinion every blind person who relies on
>> accessibility technology for computers and mobile devices needs to
>> look at VoiceOver as well as the other technologies and proactively
>> push the envelope so that we can create momentum for transparency. My
>> question is, why aren't  all of the vendors  emulating the approach  
>> of
>> VoiceOver, which is to have built in accessibility to the device out
>> of the box without charging extra? WHen I can pay $190 for a cell
>> phone that has built in accessibility I find that amazing compared to
>> spending money for a cell phone and then having to turn around and  
>> buy
>> a 3rd party access solution that in many cases only works half baked.
>> Not only do I get a cell phone for $190 but I get all the built in
>> apps talking clock, calculator, maps, weather forecasting, text
>> messaging, address book management, calendaring including syncing  
>> with
>> other calendars. For years blind people have taken the position that
>> touch screens are the enemy and that we can't use them. Yet the  
>> IPhone
>> with VoiceOver is totally dependent on the touch screen. I do
>> everything with the touch screen look at email, update my calendar,
>> make phone calls,....   -Kevin Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM,
>> tunecollector<tunecollector at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> This subject was discussed when Voiceover first came out but has  
>>> anyone
>> used
>>> it more intensively since then?  Is it ready for prime time?     
>>> What are
>> its
>>> drawbacks.
>>>
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>> --
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