[gui-talk] Looking forinstructionsforunderstandingFacebooknonvisually

Thu Jul 23 10:54:09 UTC 2009

Solona is not a web browser, but a free service launched in April dedicated 
to solving image captchas.  Basically, it works like this.  When you 
encounter a web page that contains an image captcha (you know this when you 
hear something like "Type the characters you see"), you press the keystroke 
combination Shift-Control-S to create an image file of the page using the 
Solona automation tool you previously downloaded.  You then log onto the 
Solona web site (you must first register with them) and submit the image 
file you just created.  A sighted human operator, standing by, decodes the 
image captcha contained in the image file and returns the result to you in 
text format that can be read by JAWS or other screen reader.  You can then 
copy and paste the result into the appropriate edit field.  The beauty of 
Solona is that, unlike Webvisum, it works with all web browsers including 
IE. Just visit solona.net to learn more.

Gerald
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kris" <khickerson at charter.net>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Looking 
forinstructionsforunderstandingFacebooknonvisually

> Hi All,
>
> Is Solona a web browser?  I've never heard of it before.
>
> Kris
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Looking for
> instructionsforunderstandingFacebooknonvisually
>
>
> Gerald,
>
> I know about Salona, though I've never used it. I simply have managed to
> solve my audio guys well enough. But I may try those service someday. I 
> just
> don't go many places where I have to deal with a CAPTCHA. Just lucky, for
> the most part.
>
> Thanks.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Looking for instructions
> forunderstandingFacebooknonvisually
>
>
>
> Trying to solve audio captchas is just a frustrating waste of time. 
> Instead
> of struggling to solve audio captchas, you can try Solona, the free 
> service
> that uses real live human operators to decode image captchas.  Solona is 
> now
> even easier to use with the introduction of an automation tool.  Once you
> install this tool, all you have to do is press Shift-Control-S on the page
> that contains the image captcha and  submit the created image file to 
> Solona
> for decoding.  A human operator will decode the captcha and return the
> result to you in text format that you can then copy and paste into the
> appropriate edit field.  Check it out at:
>
> http://www.solona.net/index.php
>
> Gerald
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lloyd Rasmussen" <lras at sprynet.com>
> To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Looking for instructions
> forunderstandingFacebooknonvisually
>
>
>> The captcha is one of the disadvantages of working with Facebook.  Many
>> things have changed since the AFB article was written, but their
>> discussion
>> of the captcha and the alternative procedure where they send a text
>> message
>> to a cell phone of your choosing is still accurate.  Since I haven't gone
>> the texting route yet, I get a captcha for almost every friend request I
>> do.
>> I don't solve all of their audio captchas on the first try, but I find
>> them
>> much easier than some others I have encountered.  Busy corporations can
>> certainly be unresponsive sometimes.
>>
>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, Maryland
>> Home:  http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>> Work:  http://www.loc.gov/nls
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:57 AM
>>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Looking for instructions for
>>> understandingFacebooknonvisually
>>>
>>> Gerald,
>>>
>>> Not only is Dave correct about this, but I can provide one more example
>>> of
>>> the same thing, which is Amazon. If you know the site, as soon as the
>>> home
>>> page opens, Jaws is likely to say something about how, if you're using a
>>> screen reader, you might benefit from clicking on this link and going to
>>> their sort of mirror site. A lot of screen user people appreciate the
>>> simplified site with its low graphics and simplified layout, but Amazon
>>> didn't create that site expressly for the convenience of the blind 
>>> Amazon
>>> customer any more than they introduced audio to Kindle for the sake of
>>> the
>>> blind. I'm not saying this cynically, and I don't think Dave meant it in
>>> that spirit either, or at least not entirely. it's just how it is.
>>>
>>> The "Facebook team" is pretty much in the dark about blind computer
>>> users.
>>> I
>>> wrote them for help because for some reason I kept being asked to get
>>> past
>>> a
>>> CAPTCHA a few times *after* I'd managed to register (it only took me
>>> something like 20 minutes to find an "audio challenge" I could make any
>>> sense of and type to the system's satisfaction), and that problem was 
>>> the
>>> crux of my request for help.
>>>
>>> They replied with this sort of standardized (or boilerplate, as I meant
>>> to
>>> say) stuff about how to register, changed my pass, this and that, and in
>>> order to get going I had to sort of overcome their helpful tampering. 
>>> Not
>>> once did they mention CAPTCHA technology in their reply. it all has
>>> worked
>>> out, so maybe I was never truly logged in and that's why, every time I
>>> tried
>>> to friend somebody, I got presented with that damn roadblock. But I 
>>> don't
>>> think that was it. If it was, they didn't even bother to say so. They
>>> just
>>> went right to the registration issue without a reference to what I'd
>>> asked
>>> about. Duh. I'm not surprised that no one from the Facebook Team is
>>> playing
>>> in the All Star Game this summer. Sorry. Just feeling sarcastic about
>>> anyone
>>> who replies to me in writing online without sounding actually responsive
>>> to
>>> what I've written to them. That drives me completely nutty. I mean it
>>> both
>>> befuddles and offends me.
>>>
>>> anyway, so much for the so-called "blind" Facebook site, okay? But it's
>>> got
>>> its uses, I can see that.
>>
>>
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