[gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:

Sun Apr 5 21:41:19 UTC 2009

Okay. Sorry to have been a bother on this. I guess I don't need a card 
reader. :-)

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From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
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That's ok.  that's why I spoke so specifically in the message below.

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From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:23 PM
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Well, I just didn't get it. I don't think in "we" terms, no harm intended,
but I didn't automatically get what that referred to. And I don't own any
special devices like what you're probably talking about, so the whole thing
is just unfamiliar to me. I guess it's like, let's see, Bookport? Victor
Reader Stream? If that's the idea, then I get it. I just don't own anything
I'd need a card reader for, is all. It just all sounded unfamiliar to me.
----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:59 PM
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As you said earlier and I confirmed card readers are used to hold the little
cards sightlings put in cameras and other small devices.
We, the blind, typically use them because they're faster.  They transfer
files faster than if we kept the cards in the devices they're used in.  We
would use card readers to conserve energy but the devices I'm familiar with
that we use don't have the kind of energy problems many of the cameras do
that sightlings use.  I was generalizing of course.
-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
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Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:

Who's we, and what do "we" use them for, and in what way are they faster?
Faster than what?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:36 AM
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Yes they probably do.  They often use them because transferring the data
from their camera's uses valuable energy and the reader gets its power from
the USB port.  We use them mostly because they're faster.

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
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Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:

you must be talking about things I don't use except within the body of my
own computer, right? Like a memory stick from another computer, or the
memory cards of various sorts that you stick into things like blind reading
devices or digital cameras, stuff like that. Now am I geting it?  You mean
all my normally sighted friends who have digital cameras all have some sort
of card reader that comes with it and plugs into their USB port where I've
got my thumb drive plugged in and sometimes take it out and plug in my
mobile .mp3 player so I can copy a music file to it or copy an audible.com
book from Audible Manager to it?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:05 AM
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Not quite right.  This won't accept thumb drives.  It reads various kinds of
memory sticks and cards.

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Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A new kind of accessibility:

Dave,

Well, I have one thumb drive stuck into a front-side USB port all the time
to which I copy various things I want to keep backed up from my hard drive.
So if I'm understanding you, this is some sort of device that provides extra

input slots for more such things, sort of the way a power strip lets you
plug a bunch of devices into one outlet? And when you select one of the
things you've got attached to it, it shows up in Windows Explorerr just the
way my one and only thumb drive shows up now? Is that pretty much how it
works? It's a thing that plugs into that USB port and sits on the desk in
front of your computer and has a few slots in it for a few thumb drives?

At least I understand it isn't a gypsy lady who reads Tarot cards. That's
the only meaning I could think of, which is what such fortune tellers are
generally called. Card readers or Tarot card readers. That's Taroh, Mr.
Jaws.

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From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
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Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:16 PM
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A card reader is a small device that hooks up to your computer,
usually via an USB connection, and accepts one or more flash storage
cards, such as SD or compact flash, or memory sticks.  The card then
appears to your computer as does another drive so you can move files
to and from it.

Dave

At 06:50 PM 4/4/2009, you wrote:
>Stupid question of the day: what's a card reader?
>
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>
>I just bought a card reader and it came with a disc which included the
>print
>user's manual in PDF format.  I think this will happen more often which
>will
>make life just a little easier.
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