[gui-talk] A news line question:

Joel Deutsch jdeutsch at dslextreme.com
Sat Apr 4 03:31:51 UTC 2009


Okay. If I get signed up for it, I'm sure I'll figure it out. Thanks.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A news line question:


The answer is yes, you can click on the .opf file.  However, most
daisy readers and players will find any daisy publications so you
don't have to worry about individual files.

Dave

At 10:24 PM 4/2/2009, you wrote:
>Dave,
>
>You mean if you don't even have a Daisy reader, you learn to just click on
>the data file and read it in a relatively simple way (you mean just as if 
>it
>were an online news article, nothing worse than that?), but if you have a
>Daisy reader, you click on another one of those four files and the reader
>somehow pulls together the formatting plus data content of all the
>attachments, and a document opens that you can navigate and read using the
>advantages of a Daisy reader? It sounds a little mysterious. Like if you've
>got a Daisy reader, you have to know to click on a certain one of the
>attachments, not the data file?
>
>I suppose if I ever get into this I'll just learn it by doing it and these
>questions of mine may seem a bit abstract in hindsight. but I'm trying to
>figure out what I can, from my current location, as it were.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 6:59 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A news line question:
>
>
>No, no, no.  You don't have to open several files to read one
>article.  What I was trying to say is that a daisy publication,
>whether it be a book, a magazine, a newspaper, or s0omething else is
>made up of several files.  In the case of NFB Newsline, each paper
>has four files.  One has an OPF extension and is called a Package
>file and it basically identifies the publication, one has a NCX
>extension and is the structure of the publication, one has extension
>xml and is the data, and the final file has an extension of smil and
>is the connection between the structure and data.  The xml file will
>probably load into your browser by itself, from where you can read
>it, you can navigate by heading, so it isn't bad.
>
>For full control you will need a daisy player or software package (reader.)
>
>Dave
>
>At 11:00 PM 4/1/2009, you wrote:
> >Dave,
> >
> >What do you mean by this. You mean an article comes to you split into
> >several file attachments, and you have to open all of them at the same 
> >time
> >to get them to comprise one article? I can't imagine what that would be
> >like. I never open two attachments at once, normally. Even if I did, like
> >two Word attachments, they'd simply open as two different documents, each
> >in
> >its own window. I'm confused about this.
> >
> >And then you're saying that a Daisy reader of some sort is best, but you
> >can
> >read them in other ways? You mean I could read such an article using just
> >Jaws, same as I do with a New York Times article, which I have no 
> >complaint
> >about, but if I had a daisy thing, then it would be better? You mean I'd
> >have all those navigational tricks you can do with Daisy? I don't have a
> >Daisy playback,  unit or program, so I'm just talking from what I think I
> >understand.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 2:30 PM
> >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] A news line question:
> >
> >
> >All of the files make up a DAISY book.  For best reading you need a
> >player, such as the Victor Reader Stream, or DAISY playback software.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >At 07:24 AM 4/1/2009, you wrote:
> > >I just had sent to me an attachment containing 4 files to read a 
> > >magazine
> > >from the web on demand section of their site. However, I can't get it 
> > >to
> > >work.  The first and largest file is a .xml file and it begins to open 
> > >in
> > >Internet Explorer but stops after the copyright notice is read.  The
> > >browser
> > >announces how many heading and links in the file indicating the screen
> > >reader has been able to review the pages content.  I also don't know 
> > >what
> > >purpose the other three files serve.  I see no answers to my questions 
> > >on
> > >their site and I've read the FAQ and other help files.  Any thoughts
> > >would
> > >be appreciated.  I'm using I.E. 8 and jaws 10.  thanks
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