[gui-talk] this fax thing

Joel Deutsch jdeutsch at dslextreme.com
Thu Dec 18 20:43:55 UTC 2008


Steve,

I realize I somehow gave the impression that I didn't know all this. I do. 
Everything is all set up okay. Thanks very much for detailing these 
important cautions, but everything in my system of voice phone lines, dsl 
modem, and the rest is all very kosher with the filters and the whole 
shebang. I'm sorry if by the way I asked my questions about this fax thing, 
in a thread in which I shouldn't even have been participating , I gave the 
impression that I was a little addled about the general subject. I'm fine 
with all this. I just got distracted by that whole thing with the online 
service and then I must have started sounding a little goofy. Everything is 
set up right, and if I want to use Open Book's fax capability I'll just 
install the splitter where it has to go, everything will have a filter on 
it, just as every line all the way to the extension phone by my bed has a 
filter, and it'll be good.

again, sorry. I shouldn't have even been posting my silly questions. Someone 
once told me about how a splitter would deal with the problem of having dsl 
so that my stock internal modem would be able to be used, and I simply 
forgot. I think it was Albert who was the first to remind me on the list, 
and when he did, my mind cleared up again. As much as it generally can, 
anyway.

As another recent example of me cnfusing myself, I also got distracted by 
that thread about Adobe Flash players and stuff. All the posts just kept 
coming, as if there were some widespread problem, and eventually I looked at 
my add/remove programs list and saw, right at the top, Adobe Flash Player 10 
with active-X, and yes I've heard that Silver Line or whatever that is might 
be useful to download and install to enhance this, and so I was again 
thinking there was some big problem I didn't know about and had to somehow 
understand and then deal with before it was too late and I was missing 
something important on my system.

Oh, well.

Joel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] this fax thing


Joel,

The filters are very important, though.  If your computer is near your DSL 
modem and the modem you use for faxing will be plugged into the same 
telephone jack as
the DSL modem, then you must have a DSL filter between the splitter and the 
fax modem.  There should be nothing between the splitter and your DSL modem.

If the splitter is being used to share a jack between your fax modem and 
another telephone device, you can get by with one filter by placing it 
between the spliter
and the wall jack, letting both devices function through a single filter.

Let me know if you have any questions.

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:15:44 -0800, Joel Deutsch wrote:

>That's it. A splitter. Now I remember. I'll get that fixed up one of these
>days. I suppose that will certainly allow me to fax out, using my flatbed
>scanner, but would it allow someone to fax me something that would print 
>out
>on my laser printer ? Not really sure it matters to me as much as being 
>able
>to fax something out now and then, but just curious. The only time I used
>fax very much when my sight wasn't an issue was when I was working as a
>public relations writer for several different companies and clients, and
>this was before the age of email, so that's how everyone in business passed
>written material, drafts of work, etc., back and forth. That was years ago.
>It's just a small inconvenience for me maybe once or twice a year that I
>don't have a fax machine as I did in those years gone by. Sorry to have
>gotten overwrought about it.
>onece inconveninece inconvenince forrthforor something? ----- Original
>Message ----- 
>From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:22 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] this fax thing


>All you need is a splitter and a phone wire with those plugs on each end so
>you can run a line from the splitter to the fax modem.  A couple bucks and
>you're a living fax man coo coo ka chew.
>You are the fax man.  I am the fax man.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
>Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:01 AM
>To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] this fax thing

>I have plenty of filters on the ends of my phone lines and stuff. But I've
>also got DSL and a router and someone said, I think, that I have to do
>something to get around that in order to use the phone line for the modem
>temporarily instead of it being commandeered by the DSL modem. I got the
>filters and all that stuff, though.

>but if this would work for me, see, that'd be like having a "real" fax
>machine. That's all I really want, now and then.

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:38 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] this fax thing


>It's not hard.  You need to make sure you have a fax modem in your computer
>and that it's enabled.  You also need these little filter thinggies, less
>than a dollar at Radio shack if you don't have them  and then you need a
>person with a fax capable set up to which you can fax a few times to get
>things right.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
>Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:11 PM
>To: GUI-Talk
>Subject: [gui-talk] this fax thing

>I've got Open Book, a scanner,and I'm pretty sure my computer has a fax
>modem right in some slot that I happen not to use because I have a DSL
>Internet connection.  So as far as I know, I don't need some Cloud-based
>service to fax something. I just need someone to explain correctly how to
>set things up so that I'll bypass my dsl modem when I want to in order to
>fax something using my scanner and Open Books' scan function!

>Someone once said something rather complicated about hooking up all kind 
>of

>stuff every time tyou do this,and then someone told me that wasn't right 
>and

>it wasn't such a complicated thing to do.
>But how?


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