[gui-talk] google has changed and searches are now difficult

Mon Dec 15 17:31:44 UTC 2008

I won't read archived messages, thanks, not back a long way just because 
things have been stated imprecisely.  Life is too shoartt. I believe the 
problem may actually be    something like this "problem" doesn't mean 
"possible solution":

I entered a search string in the Google edit box. I found the Search button 
and pressed entter.

After a small fraction of a second, up came an announcement that the first 
20 or so of my 360,000 search results were now on the page, preceded by a 
few paid advertisement results. So far this was just as it always had 
worked.

When I pressed Enter on the link of the first result that interested me from 
that list, it loaded the Web page of that link, and so now I was on the Web 
in general, on my own, and no longer actually in the Google domain. Just 
saying that as a matter of keeping things cearl.

Now I started to fear something must be the matter with Google. Because when 
I discovered this page didn't suit my needs, I pressed the backspace key ai 
was not returned to the Google search page. Just for instance. Could have 
been a few pages deeper by that time, of course. and nothing happened.

If the problem stops there, the answer is that it isn't the backspace key 
you hought to have pressed. Boing back to the last page you visited isn't 
called "back spacing."

But if in fact, that was something like a typeographical error or a brief 
slip of the mind and you really did mean that you pressed the correct back 
control, alt left arrow,  and it would not reload the previous page, then 
your browser is stuck where you are for some reason. Maybe you're trying to 
back up to the Google start page but its engineers have suddenly changed the 
appearcnce of the page so that it now contain a bunch pof photos and 
graphics that your browser is taking ages to download because your 
connection speed happens to be modest. Check your subject line Insert down 
arrow for message that might suggest this.

So what is the actual problem?I'm not asking what the solution is. I'm 
asking for a description of what actualkly happens, in other words, what's 
the problem? I can't see a problem except for one detail that I man actually 
have missed, and thus am suffering for not knowing. Have you abandoned 
browsers like Internet Explorer and Firefox and you're now using the brand 
new Google Browser I've heard about? And it is misbehaving?

then that's a different question. Stilll, you must say whether you think 
it's the browser that's acting bacly or the Web browser when you click on a 
search result and get out of the browser's search page.

thanks very much for the clarification.

To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] google has changed and searches are now difficult

It was and is about Google search but he couldn't get the browser to go back
a page when he wanted.  You have to read the last message first to
understand beccause you've forgotten how the thread ran.

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:15 AM
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] google has changed and searches are now difficult

Whatever. I thought the whole thing was about Google search. If it's not,
that's different, and i'm not following that. Thanks.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] google has changed and searches are now difficult

The reference is in the last message.

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 1:20 AM
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] google has changed and searches are now difficult

I noticed someone say that somewhere along the line, but I didn't remember
it being the basis of thread. In fact, what I remember was something about
that Google Search had changed in some way and had become hard to use, in
some way that wasn't clear to me.

Not arguing. Just don't get this.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] google has changed and searches are now difficult

The person who initiated the thread had a problem using the backspace key to
go back a page in the browser on the google site.

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:29 PM
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] google has changed and searches are now difficult

Hi,

How does the issue you're addressing here relate to the question as to
whether Google has recently become less accessible to use?

thanks very much.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] google has changed and searches are now difficult

On some pages, for whatever reason, backspace doesn't work. the other
Windows keystroke to go back a page is Alt with Left Arrow. Try this
and see if it solves the problem of not being able to go back a page.
I wish that headings were used to indicate each result on Google's
other search pages, such as the groups search. Give me a page with
headings and I'm a happy camper.

Wayne

On 12/14/08, Joel Deutsch <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com> wrote:
> Well, it might just be time for you to perform a Jaws repair, then! that's
> the screen reader world's rough eequivalent of the sighted world's phrase
> "I
> didn't see that. Maybe it's time to go to the eye doctor and have my
> vision
> checked and maybe get a new prescription for my glasses."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] google has changed and searches are now difficult
>
>
> HMMM ... I never saw that!
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yolanda" <nmcb at zianet.com>
> To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] google has changed and searches are now
> difficult
>
>
> Actually he is right, but you had to OK the change.  A few days ago
> google
> asked if you wanted them to employ the change, I did and it did
> change--i.e.
> using their pop-up blocker, the way searches were displayed etc. but
> turn it
> off under view toolbars and it'll be back to normal.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of albert griffith
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 8:55 AM
> To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] google has changed and searches are now
> difficult
>
> I can't tell you what's wrong but the problem doesn't lie with Google.
> I
> use it often and that doesn't happen to me.  You may begin by checking
> your
> search settings.  Also, if you're running the latest version of jaws you
> may
> have the new auto forms feature enabled and not set properly.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of plume
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 8:50 AM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: [gui-talk] google has changed and searches are now difficult
>
> Hello everyone,
> I have always enjoyed using Google and has always found the information
> which I have searched for easy.
>
> Google has changed and I find it very difficult to find the information
> which I have been searching for.
>
> Did Google make a big change or did some of my settinhgs cause this
> problem?
>
> Sometime Google will only provide me with one choice and I cannot get
> out of
> that site by pressing the back space key.
>
> Can someone provide some info on my problem?
>
> Thanks, Tom Blume
> Voice mail: 206-312-7844
>
>
>
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