[gui-talk] serge protectors

[Rose Combs]

Oops, I meant $48 and up, paid $67 for the one I bought.  
 


Rose Combs
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[mailto:gui-talk-bounces+rosecombs=qwest.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joel
Deutsch
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] serge protectors

i think I've got it. LOL

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Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:42 PM
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Uninterrupted power supply.



Rose Combs
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[mailto:gui-talk-bounces+rosecombs=qwest.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joel
Deutsch
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If I knew what UPS stood for, I might look at them on Amazon or elsewhere
online. What does UPS stand for, please? Thanks.

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I have bought UPS units at Best Buy, Circuit City, Office Max and Staples
depending on where I was at the time I needed one.



Rose Combs
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[mailto:gui-talk-bounces+rosecombs=qwest.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ray
Foret jr
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Where did you get it; and, what model is it ETC?  One such as you describe
sounds like exactly what I have been wanting.  Thanks.

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] serge protectors


I agree.
I have a UPS that controls both my web server and my computer I use
for work related tasks.
both machines will shutdown gracefully if unattended.

A voice announces that utility power has failed. If the computer is
still operational when power returns a voice announces utility power
has returned.


Also the UPS will start to beep every few seconds or so.
Chris
On Wed, 14 May 2008 09:02:51 -0700, "Rose Combs" <rosecombs at qwest.net>
wrote:

>I totally agree about the UPS units.  To emphasize the point, I was doing
>transcription at home one weekend, had both the transcription unit and the
>computer plugged into the UPS unit.  My husband was using some electric
>lawn
>equipment and apparently he popped the circuit.  I was totally unaware he
>had done it until he came in to tell me to stop  working and shut down,
>because I was working on the UPS which had only about 22 minutes of time on
>the battery.  At least I did not lose the 30 page document I was working
>on.
>
>
>
>
>Rose Combs
>rosecombs at qwest.net
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:gui-talk-bounces+rosecombs=qwest.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Loy
>Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:19 AM
>To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] serge protectors
>
>I would suggest that everyone should use a UPS on there computer equipment
>rather than just a surge protector. This combines a surge protector and
>battery backup. I have had instances of low power  where the UPS kicks in
>and prevents the computer from shutting down. I had a problem with a copier
>that caused low power when it was in use and the computer would shut down
>because it did not get enough power. After connecting a UPS this was no
>longer a problem, because the battery kicked in when this happened. I don't
>know if low power could damage a computer like a surge , but I suspect it
>could.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] serge protectors
>
>
>Dave,
>
>Yes, you're right. In fact, I've never known that minor, perhaps
>unnoticeable, electrical events can wear away the protective capability of
>a
>
>surge protector. I wouldn't  mind knowing what sorts of events those might
>be, and how you could be alert to recognize them when they occur. . I think
>like most people, I only understand "surge" to be something like what
>you're
>
>referring to as catastrophic, or at least dramatically noticeable. Like
>there is a power outage in the whole neighborhood, and your computer dies
>along with whatever other appliances and lights are turned on. Then the
>power problem is fixed by the power company, and the first jolt of renewed
>electricity is much stronger than the normal constant output, and fries
>your
>
>computer and stereo amplifier unless you've either unplugged them or
>they're
>
>plugged into a surge protector. In which case the surge protector circuitry
>gets fried and you have to buy a new surge protector.
>
>That is all I thought this was about. I know nothing about there being
>periodic surges of electricity no one would notice that nonetheless eat
>away
>
>incrementally at a surge protector's functionality.
>
>So shoot me, Dave. What can I say. I never heard about the slow death sort
>of surges.
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] serge protectors
>
>
>Joel:  Be careful about lecturing Lloyd (smile) he is an electrical
>engineer.
>
>I think he was talking about small surges that cumulatively take away
>the surge protection, while it seems like you are talking about a
>catastrophic strike.
>
>Dave
>
>At 01:37 PM 5/13/2008, you wrote:
>>Lloyd,
>>I don't think that's what they were talking about. Everybody knows that if
>>a
>>surge protector is forced to break the current during a power surge, then
>>it
>>loses its capacity to protect and needs to be replaced, even though of
>>course it still can provide electricity to what's plugged into it. and
>>just
>>because you can't see the pilot light, that wouldn't matter if you knew
>>you'd had a dramatic power surge, like a lightning strike. If that were to
>>happen, or the house current would go off and suddenly come back on, or
>>that
>>sort of thing, I'd certainly get a friend or neighbor to take a look at my
>>power strip and, if the light was out, install a fresh replacement.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Lloyd Rasmussen" <lras at loc.gov>
>>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:26 AM
>>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] serge protectors
>>
>>
>>As far as I know, surge protectors can fail in a way that you cannot
>>detect
>>without sight.  Failure can occur if there was a nearby lightning strike
>>or
>>other sudden spike of voltage on your AC outlets.  The metal-oxide
>>varistor
>>or other device inside the unit is supposed to short much of that charge
>>out, so your computer is not exposed to it.  But it can only do this a
>>limited number of times.  An L E D on the power strip may change color or
>>go out to indicate that the surge protection function is no longer
>>working.  But the strip will still supply unprotected power.
>>
>>This is not a matter of aging, but only a matter of exposure to large
>>electrical surges.
>>
>>Having said all this, I have never had one of my surge protectors
>>inspected
>>to see whether it has sustained damage or not.
>>
>>At 02:07 PM 5/13/2008, you wrote:
>> >Denise --
>> >
>> >If Best Buy, and every other retailer for that matter, could convince us
>> >of
>> >it, they would have us replace everything we own as frequently as
>> >possible,
>> >just to keep their bottom lines as profitable as possible.
>> >
>> >As for the surge protector going bad, yet still providing output power,
>> >that
>> >comes as quite a shock to me.
>> >
>> >It sounds to me like the technicians there simply don't know what caused
>> >the
>> >problem in the first place, so they're coming up with a bogus excuse to
>> >explain away their ineptness.  And if your computer is still under
>> >warranty,
>> >then you'd better believe that they're trying to find some way of
>> >blaming
>> >you and your equipment for being at fault, so they can charge you some
>> >real
>> >bucks to repair or replace your computer.
>> >
>> >-- George
>> >
>> >
>> >Denise avant recently said ...
>> >
>> >"i recently had to take in my computer TO BEST BUY FOR REPAIR. I WAS
>> >told
>> >that some hardware inside of the computer may be causing my problem. and
>> >the
>> >damage to the hardware in the computer may have been caused by my serve
>> >protector going bad. i explained that i had the protector for about 5 or
>> >6
>> >years, and i was then advised that a replacement every two years was
>> >adviseable. so thus my question.
>>
>>Lloyd Rasmussen, Acting Head, Engineering Section
>>National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped
>>Library of Congress    (202) 707-0535   <http://www.loc.gov/nls>
>>HOME:  <http://lras.home.sprynet.com>
>>The opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent
>>those of NLS.
>>
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