[gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75

Ted Shelly tshelly at optonline.net
Sat May 10 19:06:12 CDT 2008


Thanks Cindy.  I finally was able to talk to someone at the AT&T store and
he said it would be alright to remove the battery.  That did the trick and
now it is working fine again.   

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org
[mailto:gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
slery
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 7:40 PM
To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75

Go ahead and try taking the battery out.  I had a Nokia 6620 before and
sometimes I would have to do that because that is the only way to "reset"
it.  They don't actually bother to tell you that part.

I'm not sure where you got your phone from original.  However, now remember
mine is actually a Pantech and not a Nokia, I did have the same problem with
my phone.  Taking the battery out did not help.  It would not boot past the
logo page so you couldn't actually do anything with it to try to fix the
problem.  I ended up having to take it back to my AT&T store (even though I
bought it from AT&T online) and they replaced the phone on the spot because
I was within my warranty period.

Good luck.  As much as I love my phone and MS, it was definitely a fight to
get there.

Cindy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Ted Shelly
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 5:58 PM
> To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> 
> 
> Cindy,
> 
> Thanks.  That's the way it is in Europe.  Most people get 5 or 6 weeks 
> vacation a year.  Makes you wonder how they get anything done.
> 
> And my next drama is that the phone is completely locked up.  
> It is on but just shows the word "Nokia" on the screen.  And it won't 
> shut off!  The manual says not to try taking the battery out until the 
> phone is off, so I don't want to try that.  I have a call into the 
> local office where I got the phone and they have promised to call me 
> back.  We'll see if they actually do.
> 
> My previous phone was a Motorola that I had for almost 9 years.  I 
> knew all the important functions and it worked just fine for me.  Only 
> reason I gave it up was that the charger would no longer connect 
> properly so it won't charge.  Maybe I can get it repaired...
> 
> Ted
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of slery
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 5:20 PM
> To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> 
> FYI, Ted, apparently the one person they have handling the licenses 
> likes vacations a LOT.  She was on vacation for a week just last 
> month.  If I could have afforded to purchase MS on my own, I would 
> have.  I do not work and my SSDI is so far below the poverty line that 
> I can't even see it.
> 
> Good luck, and hopefully you'll get a resolution soon.  I lucked out 
> and my Pantech Duo had enough features on it that I was able manage 
> until I could get my license.
> 
> Cindy
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of Ted Shelly
> > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 2:25 PM
> > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Here's the latest on my saga of getting Mobile Speak up and
> running on
> > my AT&T Nokia N75.
> > 
> > It's been two weeks since I first contacted AT&T to get the license 
> > for Mobile Speak.  I called them again on Friday and they
> told me that
> > the administrator was back from vacation but that there was
> a backlog
> > of requests and I would just have to wait.
> > 
> > I thought I had a contingency plan, since Cindy had warned that it 
> > took her weeks to get AT&T to act.  I wrote directly to
> Code Factory
> > (maker of Mobile
> > Speak) on Monday to see if they would give me a temporary
> 30-day demo
> > license.  I got a nice reply the next day that they would
> be happy to
> > do that, I just needed to supply the serial number from my
> phone.  I
> > wrote back immediately and thought "Aha! I'm set!".  But now it has 
> > been 4 more days and I have heard nothing from them, even though I 
> > wrote again on Thursday.
> > 
> > I'm sure there is a good explanation for all this run-around.
> >  It actually does my heart good to know that in this modern day of 
> > instant gratification there is still plenty of good
> old-fashioned red
> > tape.  May our bureaucracies live forever!
> > 
> > Meanwhile, when I turn on my phone Mobile Speak starts and
> runs for 10
> > minutes.  I always try to learn a couple of phone features in those 
> > first few minutes.  but I must turn off mobile speak before the 10 
> > minutes runs out.  If the time does expire, Mobile Speak
> announces on
> > every key press "
> > Please register Mobile Speak".  It drives you crazy.
> > 
> > The N75 does have some built-in speech features.  It can
> read messages
> > and the address book.  But you have to drill down through several 
> > menus to find the feature.  I'm going to work on memorizing the key 
> > presses.
> > 
> > The voice dial feature works pretty well.  I added names to the 
> > address book through the PC Suite and then on the phone you
> just press
> > and hold soft key 2 and speak the name.  It reads it back
> to you in a
> > synth voice and dials the number.
> > 
> > On the PC Suite, it is reasonably accessible, except for the backup 
> > function.  I rarely get completely stymied by an
> application but this
> > one is a total mystery.  No menu or button will speak and
> even though
> > I have some sight the color scheme is impossible, no matter
> how I try
> > to change colors or contrast I can't read anything on its
> screen.  I'm
> > going to get my wife to help me with that one.
> > 
> > I knew I was taking something on when I decided to do this
> all myself.
> > You can send the phone into AT&T and they will install it
> and send it
> > back.  But how long will that take?  I don't want to be without a 
> > phone and I can take and make calls with little trouble
> even without
> > Mobile Speak.  But I want to use more of the phone features and I 
> > really hope I can get this thing up and running soon.
> > 
> > Wish me luck!
> > 
> > Ted
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ted Shelly [mailto:tshelly at optonline.net]
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:37 PM
> > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > 
> > Cindy,
> > 
> > Thanks.  I think I will try contacting Code Factory
> directly to see if
> > I can get the 30-day license from them.  And I'll keep after AT&T.  
> > Your experience is not very encouraging!
> > 
> > Ted
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> > Of slery
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 11:25 AM
> > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > 
> > I read that in the manual also, but when I installed, there
> were four
> > options.  One of them was the 30 day trial.  The install software 
> > pulled the serial number/IMEI number from my phone for me.
> > 
> > I did just realize you are using a symbian phone where as,
> I am using
> > a Pantech Duo.  However, I suggest trying the 30 day demo.  
> Also, be
> > persistent with AT&T.  I never did receive an email from them but I 
> > did get it over the phone after about the fifth call and
> four months
> > after I had actually paid for the license.
> > 
> > Cindy
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org
> > > [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Ted Shelly
> > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:52 AM
> > > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Cindy,
> > > 
> > > Here is what the MS mnaual says about the 30 day license:
> > > 
> > > "In order to obtain a 30-day trial license for Mobile
> > Speak, you need
> > > to provide your distributor with the product serial number."
> > > 
> > > I guess my distributor is AT&T and that I'll need to give them the 
> > > serial number.  Do you know of another way to get a trial license?
> > > 
> > > Ted
> > >  
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org
> > > 
> [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > > Of slery
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:48 PM
> > > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > > 
> > > Ted,
> > > 
> > > You should have been able to install the one month demo
> > instead of the
> > > 10 minute version.
> > > 
> > > Once you have your license you can simply activate it.  You do not 
> > > need to install anything.  (i.e. run the install but instead of 
> > > selecting install, select register)
> > > 
> > > Cindy
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org
> > > > [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org]
> > > > On Behalf Of Ted Shelly
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:32 PM
> > > > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > > > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Here is a progress report on installing Mobile Speak on
> > my new Nokia
> > > > N75.
> > > > 
> > > > I called the AT&T national Center for Customers with
> > Disabilities a
> > > > week ago last Saturday and requested the license keys for Mobile 
> > > > Speak.  The representative assured me I would get an e-mail
> > > in a few
> > > > days.  When I had received nothing by Friday, I called
> > > again and this
> > > > time was informed that the only person who deals with
> this was on
> > > > vacation.
> > > > Seems I'll get the keys by some time next week.
> > > > 
> > > > In the meantime I had spent some time reading the Mobile
> > > Speak manuals
> > > > and the manual for the phone.  I worked a bit with the PC
> > > Suite to get
> > > > familiar with it.  One thing I found is that you need
> to start PC
> > > > suite first before plugging the phone into the USB cable
> > or things
> > > > don't work right.  But the PC suite was reasonable to use
> > otherwise.
> > > > 
> > > > Then with some sighted assistance from my wife I
> installed the MS
> > > > packages. That was straight-forward, so long as you have
> > someone to
> > > > read the messages that come up on the phone.
> > > > You just select the "Install Applications" item, find where you 
> > > > downloaded the software, select it and click install.  On
> > hte phone
> > > > you get some prompts asking if you are sure you want to
> > install it.
> > > > After the install  Mobile Speak started right away in
> > > 10-minute demo
> > > > mode.
> > > > 
> > > > The annoying thing is that when it quits after the 10
> minutes, it
> > > > repeats "Please register Mobile Speak" every time you do
> > > anything on
> > > > the phone.  I had to get my wife to turn off MS before
> it drove me
> > > > crazy.
> > > > 
> > > > In the brief time I used it, the software seemed to work
> > > fine, but the
> > > > voice is not as responsive as I would like.  It just takes
> > > a while for
> > > > it to start to speak the screen contents.
> > > > 
> > > > Hopefully AT&T will actually get me the keys this next
> > week and I'll
> > > > be set.
> > > > 
> > > > One question I have is whether I need to install the
> > one-month demo
> > > > license or if I can just go ahead and install the permanent
> > > license.
> > > > Anyone know?
> > > > 
> > > > Ted
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ted Shelly [mailto:tshelly at optonline.net]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:14 AM
> > > > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > > > Subject: RE: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > > > 
> > > > Cindy,
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks.  I will give this a try.  I think Fonix is the voice 
> > > > synthesizer.
> > > > 
> > > > I have installed Nokia PC Suite and gotten it to talk to
> > > the phone via
> > > > USB. I'll use USB for now since it should be a bit
> faster and more
> > > > reliable, and Bluetooth will take some additional configuraton.
> > > > 
> > > > I'll let you all know how it goes.
> > > > 
> > > > Ted
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org
> > > > 
> > [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > > > Of slery
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 8:22 AM
> > > > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > > > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > > > 
> > > > Please clarify if I am wrong.  Fonix (spelled with an F)
> > "is" Mobile
> > > > Speak. It is not something that is separate.  I opted to
> > install the
> > > > Loquendo Susan version of Mobile Speak and did
> > > it myself
> > > > on the Pantech Duo.
> > > > 
> > > > Since the original asker stated that he would have his wife
> > > as sighted
> > > > assistance, it really is not that hard to setup.
> > > > The only part you actually need help with might be
> connecting your
> > > > phone to the computer.
> > > > 
> > > > Remember to install Nokia's PC Suite first.  I have seen
> > > comments that
> > > > the new version is more accessible.  Then connect your phone 
> > > > (bluetooth or USB, I recommend bluetooth if your computer
> > supports
> > > > it).  Once you have the phone and computer communicating,
> > > download the
> > > > version of Mobile Speak that you wish to try.  Unzip it and
> > > open/start
> > > > the executable file.  It will tell you exactly what to do
> > from that
> > > > point on.
> > > > 
> > > > One note, you will have to use the 30 day demo until AT&T
> > gives you
> > > > the license (which is actually your User ID).  Once they
> > > provide you
> > > > that number, run the setup again and this time you choose
> > > the option
> > > > to register at the end instead of the demo.
> > > > 
> > > > It really is pretty easy.
> > > > 
> > > > Cindy
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org
> > > > > [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 6:53 AM
> > > > > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > > > > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I would suggest you install the phonex version which is
> > > the text to
> > > > > speech software, then the mobile speak software, and
> Ted, visit:
> > > > > 
> > > > > www.blindcooltech.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > There is in a most recent podcast, a tutorial how to
> install the
> > > > > mobile speak, but if AT&T will do it let them
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: 
> gui-talk-bounces+stephen=independentliving.com at nfbnet.org
> > > > > [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+stephen=independentliving.com at nfbnet.
> > > > > org] On Behalf Of Ted Shelly
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 8:30 PM
> > > > > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > > > > Subject: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I joined this list to see if anyone out there has had
> experience
> > > > > installing the Mobile Speak software on the Nokia
> > > > > N75 or other similar phone.  I have just switched to AT&T
> > > > so I could
> > > > > get the N75 for $99 and get the Mobile Speak software for
> > > > free.  I was
> > > > > told by the AT&T representative that many people send in
> > > > there phones
> > > > > for them to do the install, but I'm brave so I'm
> going to try it
> > > > > myself with a little sighted help from my wife.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've been reading the documentation for the software from
> > > > Code Factory
> > > > > and I must say it is rather confusing.  They say that it is
> > > > important
> > > > > that the 3 program components be installed in the correct
> > > order.  I
> > > > > downloaded the zip package and saw the three files.
> > But which is
> > > > > which?  Only the vaguest clue from the file names.  Maybe
> > > I'll just
> > > > > try it and see if it works.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If anyone out there has done such an install, chime in.
> > Otherwise
> > > > > I'll go where angels fear to tread and see what happens. I'll 
> > > > > report my experiences here.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Wish me luck.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ted
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