[gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75

[slery]

FYI, Ted, apparently the one person they have handling the licenses likes
vacations a LOT.  She was on vacation for a week just last month.  If I
could have afforded to purchase MS on my own, I would have.  I do not work
and my SSDI is so far below the poverty line that I can't even see it.

Good luck, and hopefully you'll get a resolution soon.  I lucked out and my
Pantech Duo had enough features on it that I was able manage until I could
get my license.

Cindy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Ted Shelly
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 2:25 PM
> To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> 
> 
> 
> Here's the latest on my saga of getting Mobile Speak up and 
> running on my AT&T Nokia N75.
> 
> It's been two weeks since I first contacted AT&T to get the 
> license for Mobile Speak.  I called them again on Friday and 
> they told me that the administrator was back from vacation 
> but that there was a backlog of requests and I would just 
> have to wait.
> 
> I thought I had a contingency plan, since Cindy had warned 
> that it took her weeks to get AT&T to act.  I wrote directly 
> to Code Factory (maker of Mobile
> Speak) on Monday to see if they would give me a temporary 
> 30-day demo license.  I got a nice reply the next day that 
> they would be happy to do that, I just needed to supply the 
> serial number from my phone.  I wrote back immediately and 
> thought "Aha! I'm set!".  But now it has been 4 more days and 
> I have heard nothing from them, even though I wrote again on 
> Thursday.  
> 
> I'm sure there is a good explanation for all this run-around. 
>  It actually does my heart good to know that in this modern 
> day of instant gratification there is still plenty of good 
> old-fashioned red tape.  May our bureaucracies live forever!
> 
> Meanwhile, when I turn on my phone Mobile Speak starts and 
> runs for 10 minutes.  I always try to learn a couple of phone 
> features in those first few minutes.  but I must turn off 
> mobile speak before the 10 minutes runs out.  If the time 
> does expire, Mobile Speak announces on every key press " 
> Please register Mobile Speak".  It drives you crazy.
> 
> The N75 does have some built-in speech features.  It can read 
> messages and the address book.  But you have to drill down 
> through several menus to find the feature.  I'm going to work 
> on memorizing the key presses.
> 
> The voice dial feature works pretty well.  I added names to 
> the address book through the PC Suite and then on the phone 
> you just press and hold soft key 2 and speak the name.  It 
> reads it back to you in a synth voice and dials the number.  
> 
> On the PC Suite, it is reasonably accessible, except for the 
> backup function.  I rarely get completely stymied by an 
> application but this one is a total mystery.  No menu or 
> button will speak and even though I have some sight the color 
> scheme is impossible, no matter how I try to change colors or 
> contrast I can't read anything on its screen.  I'm going to 
> get my wife to help me with that one.
> 
> I knew I was taking something on when I decided to do this 
> all myself.  You can send the phone into AT&T and they will 
> install it and send it back.  But how long will that take?  I 
> don't want to be without a phone and I can take and make 
> calls with little trouble even without Mobile Speak.  But I 
> want to use more of the phone features and I really hope I 
> can get this thing up and running soon.
> 
> Wish me luck!
> 
> Ted
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Shelly [mailto:tshelly at optonline.net] 
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:37 PM
> To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> 
> Cindy,
> 
> Thanks.  I think I will try contacting Code Factory directly 
> to see if I can get the 30-day license from them.  And I'll 
> keep after AT&T.  Your experience is not very encouraging!
> 
> Ted 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of slery
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 11:25 AM
> To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> 
> I read that in the manual also, but when I installed, there 
> were four options.  One of them was the 30 day trial.  The 
> install software pulled the serial number/IMEI number from my 
> phone for me.
> 
> I did just realize you are using a symbian phone where as, I 
> am using a Pantech Duo.  However, I suggest trying the 30 day 
> demo.  Also, be persistent with AT&T.  I never did receive an 
> email from them but I did get it over the phone after about 
> the fifth call and four months after I had actually paid for 
> the license.
> 
> Cindy
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of Ted Shelly
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:52 AM
> > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > 
> > 
> > Cindy,
> > 
> > Here is what the MS mnaual says about the 30 day license:
> > 
> > "In order to obtain a 30-day trial license for Mobile 
> Speak, you need
> > to provide your distributor with the product serial number."
> > 
> > I guess my distributor is AT&T and that I'll need to give them the
> > serial number.  Do you know of another way to get a trial license?
> > 
> > Ted
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > Of slery
> > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:48 PM
> > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > 
> > Ted,
> > 
> > You should have been able to install the one month demo 
> instead of the
> > 10 minute version.
> > 
> > Once you have your license you can simply activate it.  You do not
> > need to install anything.  (i.e. run the install but instead of 
> > selecting install, select register)
> > 
> > Cindy
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org
> > > [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Ted Shelly
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:32 PM
> > > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Here is a progress report on installing Mobile Speak on 
> my new Nokia
> > > N75.
> > > 
> > > I called the AT&T national Center for Customers with 
> Disabilities a
> > > week ago last Saturday and requested the license keys for Mobile 
> > > Speak.  The representative assured me I would get an e-mail
> > in a few
> > > days.  When I had received nothing by Friday, I called
> > again and this
> > > time was informed that the only person who deals with this was on
> > > vacation.
> > > Seems I'll get the keys by some time next week.
> > > 
> > > In the meantime I had spent some time reading the Mobile
> > Speak manuals
> > > and the manual for the phone.  I worked a bit with the PC
> > Suite to get
> > > familiar with it.  One thing I found is that you need to start PC
> > > suite first before plugging the phone into the USB cable 
> or things 
> > > don't work right.  But the PC suite was reasonable to use 
> otherwise.
> > > 
> > > Then with some sighted assistance from my wife I installed the MS
> > > packages. That was straight-forward, so long as you have 
> someone to 
> > > read the messages that come up on the phone.
> > > You just select the "Install Applications" item, find where you 
> > > downloaded the software, select it and click install.  On 
> hte phone 
> > > you get some prompts asking if you are sure you want to 
> install it.
> > > After the install  Mobile Speak started right away in
> > 10-minute demo
> > > mode.
> > > 
> > > The annoying thing is that when it quits after the 10 minutes, it
> > > repeats "Please register Mobile Speak" every time you do
> > anything on
> > > the phone.  I had to get my wife to turn off MS before it drove me
> > > crazy.
> > > 
> > > In the brief time I used it, the software seemed to work
> > fine, but the
> > > voice is not as responsive as I would like.  It just takes
> > a while for
> > > it to start to speak the screen contents.
> > > 
> > > Hopefully AT&T will actually get me the keys this next 
> week and I'll
> > > be set.
> > > 
> > > One question I have is whether I need to install the 
> one-month demo
> > > license or if I can just go ahead and install the permanent
> > license.
> > > Anyone know?
> > > 
> > > Ted
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ted Shelly [mailto:tshelly at optonline.net]
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:14 AM
> > > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > > Subject: RE: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > > 
> > > Cindy,
> > > 
> > > Thanks.  I will give this a try.  I think Fonix is the voice
> > > synthesizer.
> > > 
> > > I have installed Nokia PC Suite and gotten it to talk to
> > the phone via
> > > USB. I'll use USB for now since it should be a bit faster and more
> > > reliable, and Bluetooth will take some additional configuraton.
> > > 
> > > I'll let you all know how it goes.
> > > 
> > > Ted
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org
> > > 
> [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+tshelly=optonline.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > > Of slery
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 8:22 AM
> > > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > > 
> > > Please clarify if I am wrong.  Fonix (spelled with an F) 
> "is" Mobile 
> > > Speak. It is not something that is separate.  I opted to 
> install the 
> > > Loquendo Susan version of Mobile Speak and did
> > it myself
> > > on the Pantech Duo.
> > > 
> > > Since the original asker stated that he would have his wife
> > as sighted
> > > assistance, it really is not that hard to setup.
> > > The only part you actually need help with might be connecting your
> > > phone to the computer.
> > > 
> > > Remember to install Nokia's PC Suite first.  I have seen
> > comments that
> > > the new version is more accessible.  Then connect your phone
> > > (bluetooth or USB, I recommend bluetooth if your computer 
> supports 
> > > it).  Once you have the phone and computer communicating,
> > download the
> > > version of Mobile Speak that you wish to try.  Unzip it and
> > open/start
> > > the executable file.  It will tell you exactly what to do 
> from that
> > > point on.
> > > 
> > > One note, you will have to use the 30 day demo until AT&T 
> gives you
> > > the license (which is actually your User ID).  Once they
> > provide you
> > > that number, run the setup again and this time you choose
> > the option
> > > to register at the end instead of the demo.
> > > 
> > > It really is pretty easy.
> > > 
> > > Cindy
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org
> > > > [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+slerythema=insightbb.com at nfbnet.org]
> > > > On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 6:53 AM
> > > > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > > > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I would suggest you install the phonex version which is
> > the text to
> > > > speech software, then the mobile speak software, and Ted, visit:
> > > > 
> > > > www.blindcooltech.com
> > > > 
> > > > There is in a most recent podcast, a tutorial how to install the
> > > > mobile speak, but if AT&T will do it let them
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: gui-talk-bounces+stephen=independentliving.com at nfbnet.org
> > > > [mailto:gui-talk-bounces+stephen=independentliving.com at nfbnet.
> > > > org] On Behalf Of Ted Shelly
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 8:30 PM
> > > > To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
> > > > Subject: [gui-talk] Mobile Speak on Nokia N75
> > > > 
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > 
> > > > I joined this list to see if anyone out there has had experience
> > > > installing the Mobile Speak software on the Nokia
> > > > N75 or other similar phone.  I have just switched to AT&T
> > > so I could
> > > > get the N75 for $99 and get the Mobile Speak software for
> > > free.  I was
> > > > told by the AT&T representative that many people send in
> > > there phones
> > > > for them to do the install, but I'm brave so I'm going to try it
> > > > myself with a little sighted help from my wife.
> > > > 
> > > > I've been reading the documentation for the software from
> > > Code Factory
> > > > and I must say it is rather confusing.  They say that it is
> > > important
> > > > that the 3 program components be installed in the correct
> > order.  I
> > > > downloaded the zip package and saw the three files.  
> But which is
> > > > which?  Only the vaguest clue from the file names.  Maybe
> > I'll just
> > > > try it and see if it works.
> > > > 
> > > > If anyone out there has done such an install, chime in. 
> Otherwise
> > > > I'll go where angels fear to tread and see what happens.
> > > > I'll report my experiences here.
> > > > 
> > > > Wish me luck.
> > > > 
> > > > Ted
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