[gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com
Mike Freeman
k7uij at panix.com
Mon Mar 10 23:57:22 CDT 2008
Ah ... but it took both passage of the Fourteenth Amendment, Supreme
Court rulings and passage of civil rights laws to change the legal
situation for blacks.
As I've said, I favor declaring cyberspace a place of public
accommodation. But for better or worse, we aren't there yet and aren't
likely to get there for some time.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Darrell Shandrow
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com
Hello Mike,
I don't believe any reasonable blind person is going to claim that
sighted
readers are never needed or shouldn't be utilized. The point is that
technology is here to stay and it ought to be accessible. CAPTCHA is
special as it inherently excludes us when it is delivered in only a
visual
manner.
When African-Americans were barred from service in places of public
accomodation such as restaurants, or were served separately, they
found it
much worse than simply "irritating". Similarly, accessibility
evangelists
find visual only CAPTCHA to represent nothing less than a "no blind
people
allowed" sign when it does not reasonably accomodate accessibility
concerns.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com
I wonder the same thing, i.e., how long it'll be before the site is
inundated by unwanted traffic, i.e., a denial of service attack.
And I wasn't knocking the site nor the necessity of figuring a way to
deal with CAPTTCHA's. I was merely saying that the way we write
sometimes it is almost as if we've forgotten the fact that we don't
always need technology to solve our problems.
No one ever said blindness wasn't a nuisance. And I, like the next
person, am irritated by sites I cannot use effectively. But if I
*really* want to use a site, I am not above waiting until I can
arrange
to have the visual detritis read for me. It isn't ideal but it works.
I fear, however, that I am a voice in the wilderness. And I readily
admit that such monstrosities as CAPTTCHA's cut into productivity in
the
workplace and elsewhere. But then to my mind, forcing one to use the
web
when a simple telephone call would do *also* cuts into productivity!
(grin)
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Jacobson
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com
Does anyone know how this site works, whether they employ people to
read and retype captcha's all day or if they have an automated
solution?
I wonder how long
it will be before the site is overwhelmed by spammers?
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:08:19 -0700, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
>Hello Cindy and all,
>Yes, agreed, use of sighted readers does not at all make
inaccessible
>CAPTCHA at all acceptable.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "slery" <slerythema at insightbb.com>
>To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:06 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com
>As long as sighted readers are available at the time you need them.
I love
>my sighted readers, however, they usually go to bed by 10 while I
am
still
>at the computer at 2 am. <smile>
>Cindy
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:22 PM
>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com
>>
>>
>> Now waaaait a minute here.
>>
>> I agree that the site is progress. But using sighted readers is
an
>> honorable thing!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Sherri
>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com
>>
>>
>> Hey, anything's better than having to wait for a sighted
person!
>> Thanks.
>> I'll give it a try.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Pattison" <srp at internode.on.net>
>> To: "GUI Talk" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>; "Access-L"
>> <access-l at access-l.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:44 PM
>> Subject: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com
>>
>>
>> Sent: Sunday, 9 March 2008 9:33 AM
>>
>> Today, I heard about this site on another list, and I love
>> it. If you
>> ever
>> need to use a site that requires captchas,
>> you will to. The url is
>>
>> www.captchakiller.com
>>
>> The first thing you will have to do is sign up for an
>> account. On the
>> home
>> page, they have a lot of forum posts and
>> comments, but if you look for the crate an account link, you
should
>> have
>> no
>> problems at all.
>>
>> Once you have an account, you can upload those bothersome
captchas,
>> and
>> the
>> site will process them for you.
>>
>> I had a little trouble at first, but once you realize what
>> they want,
>> it's
>> fairly straight forward.
>>
>> I'll give you the step by step instructions.
>> 1. go to the site that has the captcha.
>> 2. find the exact page that has the captcha, and copy the
>> url that's
>> in
>> the
>> address bar.
>> 3. find the captcha on the page, and right click on it.
>> 4. choose the save picture as option and save it to your
>> hard drive.
>> 5. on the captchakiller site, choose the upload captcha link.
>> 6. paste the page url into the url field.
>> 7. hit the browse button on the page, and browse to the
>> file you saved
>> on
>> your computer.
>> 8. after hitting open on the file, hit the submit button
>> on the page.
>> 9. then choose the view captchas link on the page, and
>> find the most
>> recently uploaded one. It should be the one at
>> the top.
>> 10 when you go through the table you'll result, and beside that
is
>> what
>> you
>> have to type in for the captcha.
>>
>> This may sound a little complex, but it isn't so bad once
>> you get used
>> to
>> doing it. I'm not saying it's a solution to
>> all our captcha problems, but it sure beats getting sighted
>> help every
>> time
>> you need a captcha interpreted.
>>
>> Another helpful hint I can give you, is to keep the
captchakiller
>> site,
>> and
>> the site you want the captcha for, opened at
>> the same time. That way, you can get the captcha processed
quickly
>> and
>> enter it on the site before it expires.
>>
>> Hopefully, some people will find this site useful.
>> --------
>> Earle
>> Skype, Twitter, and Yahoo: rowdyamerican
>> MSN: peterson_33 at sympatico.ca
>> Aim: rowdyamerican28
>> ICQ: 155852055
>>
>> Regards Steve
>> Email: srp at internode.on.net
>> Windows Live Messenger: internetuser383 at hotmail.com
>> Skype: steve1963
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Ah ... but it took both passage of the Fourteenth Amendment, Supreme Court rulings and passage of civil rights laws to change the legal situation for blacks.
As I've said, I favor declaring cyberspace a place of public accommodation. But for better or worse, we aren't there yet and aren't likely to get there for some time.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From:
mailto:darrell.shandrow at gmail.com Darrell Shandrow
To:
mailto:gui-talk at nfbnet.org NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Sent:
Monday, March 10, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject:
Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com
Hello Mike,
I don't believe any reasonable blind person is going to claim that sighted
readers are never needed or shouldn't be utilized. The point is that
technology is here to stay and it ought to be accessible. CAPTCHA is
special as it inherently excludes us when it is delivered in only a visual
manner.
When African-Americans were barred from service in places of public
accomodation such as restaurants, or were served separately, they found it
much worse than simply "irritating". Similarly, accessibility evangelists
find visual only CAPTCHA to represent nothing less than a "no blind people
allowed" sign when it does not reasonably accomodate accessibility concerns.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" < mailto:k7uij at panix.com k7uij at panix.com
>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" < mailto:gui-talk at nfbnet.org gui-talk at nfbnet.org
>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com
I wonder the same thing, i.e., how long it'll be before the site is
inundated by unwanted traffic, i.e., a denial of service attack.
And I wasn't knocking the site nor the necessity of figuring a way to
deal with CAPTTCHA's. I was merely saying that the way we write
sometimes it is almost as if we've forgotten the fact that we don't
always need technology to solve our problems.
No one ever said blindness wasn't a nuisance. And I, like the next
person, am irritated by sites I cannot use effectively. But if I
*really* want to use a site, I am not above waiting until I can arrange
to have the visual detritis read for me. It isn't ideal but it works.
I fear, however, that I am a voice in the wilderness. And I readily
admit that such monstrosities as CAPTTCHA's cut into productivity in the
workplace and elsewhere. But then to my mind, forcing one to use the web
when a simple telephone call would do *also* cuts into productivity!
(grin)
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Jacobson
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com
Does anyone know how this site works, whether they employ people to
read and retype captcha's all day or if they have an automated solution?
I wonder how long
it will be before the site is overwhelmed by spammers?
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:08:19 -0700, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
>Hello Cindy and all,
>Yes, agreed, use of sighted readers does not at all make inaccessible
>CAPTCHA at all acceptable.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "slery" < mailto:slerythema at insightbb.com slerythema at insightbb.com
>
>To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" < mailto:gui-talk at nfbnet.org gui-talk at nfbnet.org
>
>Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:06 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com
>As long as sighted readers are available at the time you need them.
I love
>my sighted readers, however, they usually go to bed by 10 while I am
still
>at the computer at 2 am. <smile>
>Cindy
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:22 PM
>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com
>>
>>
>> Now waaaait a minute here.
>>
>> I agree that the site is progress. But using sighted readers is an
>> honorable thing!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Sherri
>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com
>>
>>
>> Hey, anything's better than having to wait for a sighted person!
>> Thanks.
>> I'll give it a try.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Pattison" < mailto:srp at internode.on.net srp at internode.on.net
>
>> To: "GUI Talk" < mailto:gui-talk at nfbnet.org gui-talk at nfbnet.org
>; "Access-L"
>> < mailto:access-l at access-l.com access-l at access-l.com
>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:44 PM
>> Subject: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com
>>
>>
>> Sent: Sunday, 9 March 2008 9:33 AM
>>
>> Today, I heard about this site on another list, and I love
>> it. If you
>> ever
>> need to use a site that requires captchas,
>> you will to. The url is
>>
>> http://www.captchakiller.com www.captchakiller.com
>>
>> The first thing you will have to do is sign up for an
>> account. On the
>> home
>> page, they have a lot of forum posts and
>> comments, but if you look for the crate an account link, you
should
>> have
>> no
>> problems at all.
>>
>> Once you have an account, you can upload those bothersome
captchas,
>> and
>> the
>> site will process them for you.
>>
>> I had a little trouble at first, but once you realize what
>> they want,
>> it's
>> fairly straight forward.
>>
>> I'll give you the step by step instructions.
>> 1. go to the site that has the captcha.
>> 2. find the exact page that has the captcha, and copy the
>> url that's
>> in
>> the
>> address bar.
>> 3. find the captcha on the page, and right click on it.
>> 4. choose the save picture as option and save it to your
>> hard drive.
>> 5. on the captchakiller site, choose the upload captcha link.
>> 6. paste the page url into the url field.
>> 7. hit the browse button on the page, and browse to the
>> file you saved
>> on
>> your computer.
>> 8. after hitting open on the file, hit the submit button
>> on the page.
>> 9. then choose the view captchas link on the page, and
>> find the most
>> recently uploaded one. It should be the one at
>> the top.
>> 10 when you go through the table you'll result, and beside that
is
>> what
>> you
>> have to type in for the captcha.
>>
>> This may sound a little complex, but it isn't so bad once
>> you get used
>> to
>> doing it. I'm not saying it's a solution to
>> all our captcha problems, but it sure beats getting sighted
>> help every
>> time
>> you need a captcha interpreted.
>>
>> Another helpful hint I can give you, is to keep the captchakiller
>> site,
>> and
>> the site you want the captcha for, opened at
>> the same time. That way, you can get the captcha processed
quickly
>> and
>> enter it on the site before it expires.
>>
>> Hopefully, some people will find this site useful.
>> --------
>> Earle
>> Skype, Twitter, and Yahoo: rowdyamerican
>> MSN: mailto:peterson_33 at sympatico.ca peterson_33 at sympatico.ca
>> Aim: rowdyamerican28
>> ICQ: 155852055
>>
>> Regards Steve
>> Email: mailto:srp at internode.on.net srp at internode.on.net
>> Windows Live Messenger: mailto:internetuser383 at hotmail.com internetuser383 at hotmail.com
>> Skype: steve1963
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