[gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com

Ray Foret jr rforetjr at comcast.net
Mon Mar 10 12:12:08 CDT 2008 

Nope.  I haven't yet.  Anything I should know?

Sincerely yours,
The Constantly Barefooted,
Ray
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God bless President George W. Bush!
God bless our troops!
and God bless America
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com


Hello Ray,

Have you tried their Firefox plugin yet?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com


Hey, instead of all this speculation, why not just go to the site and look?
I can tell you this.  It's not human readers.  You have to go through a
little bit of a process to get the captcha to the site; and then, it
supposedly gives you back what you type in.  However, I'm told it doesn't
work on:
www.myspace.com
and some other sites either.

Sincerely yours,
The Constantly Barefooted,
Ray
Home phone and fax:
(985)360-3375
E-mail:
rforetjratcomcastdotnet
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barefootedray

God bless President George W. Bush!
God bless our troops!
and God bless America
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com


Darrell,

I think Mike was probably simply responding to the statement, "Hey,
anything's better than having to wait for a sighted person!"  Even notes
that this site is progress.
I think we have both seen students fail or drop out of courses because their
screen reader would not function adequately and they wouldn't consider
readers.
Readers are one more tool, but the point that readers are not always
available is a valid one as well.

I have some of the same concerns you expressed in your other note, though,
regarding the site.  I wonder how they are converting the Captchas to text.
If they are
using human beings, it doesn't seem likely that the response time will be
good in the long run.  If they are using some sort of complex OCR algorithm,
it is probably a
matter of time before spammers use the same thing and the site won't be that
reliable.  I know we have tossed around a number of solutions for this, but
I wish we
could come up with something that works as this is a problem getting bigger.

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:11:20 -0700, Darrell Shandrow wrote:

>Hello Mike,

>I see you trotting out this "sighted reader" argument quite often.  That's
>all fine and good, but...

>Why should there be screen readers and other assistive technologies for the
>blind?  Couldn't one just avail themselves of a sighted reader?

>Why should there be accessible voting?  Why should the election officials
>have to help us vote?  Shouldn't we all be required to bring our trusty
>sighted reader with us?

>Why should anyone purchase a K-NFB reader when they can plunk even more
>money down over their lifetime to hire the services of a more reliable
>sighted reader?


>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:21 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com


>Now waaaait a minute here.

>I agree that the site is progress. But using sighted readers is an
>honorable thing!

>Mike

>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Sherri
>  To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>  Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:06 PM
>  Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com


>  Hey, anything's better than having to wait for a sighted person!
>Thanks.
>  I'll give it a try.
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Steve Pattison" <srp at internode.on.net>
>  To: "GUI Talk" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>; "Access-L"
><access-l at access-l.com>
>  Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:44 PM
>  Subject: [gui-talk] Fwd: Captchakiller.com


>  Sent: Sunday, 9 March 2008 9:33 AM

>  Today, I heard about this site on another list, and I love it.  If you
>  ever
>  need to use a site that requires captchas,
>  you will to.  The url is

>  www.captchakiller.com

>  The first thing you will have to do is sign up for an account.  On the
>  home
>  page, they have a lot of forum posts and
>  comments, but if you look for the crate an account link, you should
>have
>  no
>  problems at all.

>  Once you have an account, you can upload those bothersome captchas,
>and
>  the
>  site will process them for you.

>  I had a little trouble at first, but once you realize what they want,
>  it's
>  fairly straight forward.

>  I'll give you the step by step instructions.
>  1.  go to the site that has the captcha.
>  2. find the exact page that has the captcha, and copy the url that's
>in
>  the
>  address bar.
>  3.  find the captcha on the page, and right click on it.
>  4.  choose the save picture as option and save it to your hard drive.
>  5.  on the captchakiller site, choose the upload captcha link.
>  6.  paste the page url into the url field.
>  7. hit the browse button on the page, and browse to the file you saved
>  on
>  your computer.
>  8.  after hitting open on the file, hit the submit button on the page.
>  9.  then choose the view captchas link on the page, and find the most
>  recently uploaded one.  It should be the one at
>  the top.
>  10 when you go through the table you'll result, and beside that is
>what
>  you
>  have to type in for the captcha.

>  This may sound a little complex, but it isn't so bad once you get used
>  to
>  doing it.  I'm not saying it's a solution to
>  all our captcha problems, but it sure beats getting sighted help every
>  time
>  you need a captcha interpreted.

>  Another helpful hint I can give you, is to keep the captchakiller
>site,
>  and
>  the site you want the captcha for, opened at
>  the same time.  That way, you can get the captcha processed quickly
>and
>  enter it on the site before it expires.

>  Hopefully, some people will find this site useful.
>  --------
>  Earle
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>  Regards Steve
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>  Skype:  steve1963
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