[gui-talk] Fwd: Amazon press releaseConcerningAccessibilityofWeb Site

Fri Jan 4 19:19:44 CST 2008

guys,

You're doing the apples and oranges thing. Amazon does seem to have 
gradually improved the labeling of some controls and links, for instance, 
although some mysteries remain and in other cases controls are located badly 
around forms and such things so that you have to fully explore the area in 
order to know what you're supposed to do first and last, or else you get 
into serious trouble that you wouldn't anticipate on many another site.

But those of us who are describing truly awkward, nearly disabling 
experiences aren't talking about that stuff. Please reread either a message 
of mine or, if I remember correctly, Ray's message. Thanks.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at austin.rr.com>
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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Amazon press 
releaseConcerningAccessibilityofWeb Site

Interesting. I'm a frequent browser and not as frequent (not as much as I
would like) shopper on Amazon, and I've noticed the complete opposite. A few
more links have understandable descriptions/labels on them, aside from the
long letter/number strings or things like, "navigation_32b." I've also
noticed that more buttons are labeled correctly so that they tell me exactly
what that button is or, like, "Wishlist button" verses those longer strings
of characters with the words wish list mixed in somewhere. Not saying I've
been all over that site and to all departments, but in my day to day surfing
and buying I've picked up on these gradual changes. Hopefully it will
continue.

Wayne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at bellsouth.net>
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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Amazon press release
ConcerningAccessibilityofWeb Site

> At first, this was my own thinking too; but, just within the past few
> months, pages at Amazon have been opening more and more slowly.  It's
> becoming much more difficult just to arrow up and down through the pages.
> Frankly, I call  that going backwards.
>
> I too am a frequent Amazon shopper; so, it will indeed be very interesting
> to see just what happens over time.  Particularly, it will be interesting
> to
> see if they ask us for yet another extension.  If so, I suspect Dr. Maurer
> is quite prepared to play hard ball;and I do mean good and hard!!!
>
> Sincerely yours,
> The Constantly Barefooted,
> Ray
> Home phone and fax:
> (985)853-0139
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>
> God bless President George W. Bush!
> God bless our troops!
> and God bless America
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "don bishop" <w6smb at donbishop.org>
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> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Amazon press release Concerning
> AccessibilityofWeb Site
>
>
> Please excuse my ignorance on this one, but I've been successfully
> shopping on amazon.com for years.  Just exactly what's supposed to
> be not accessible?   I use the standard www.amazon.com for all my
> purchases.
>
> I do use the search function of my screen reader to bypass a lot I
> don't wish to see, but that's no big deal.
>
> Not meaning to be argumentative, just would really like to know.
>
> Don
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:16 AM
> Subject: [gui-talk] Fwd: Amazon press release Concerning
> Accessibility ofWeb Site
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>----------
>>>Amazon.com Accessibility to be Completed June 30, 2008
>>>
>>>The National Federation of the Blind and online retailer Amazon,
>>>Inc., have announced that work to make Amazon.com fully accessible
>>>to blind computer users is to be completed by June 30, 2008.  In
>>>March of 2007, Amazon entered into a technology development
>>>agreement with the National Federation of the Blind pursuant to
>>>which Amazon was to attempt to make Amazon.com fully accessible by
>>>December 31, 2007.  Because of the complexity of the task, it was
>>>recognized that this was an ambitious goal and that problems might
>>>be encountered; accordingly, the agreement provided that Amazon
>>>could have a six-month extension, if necessary, to complete work
>>>on
>>>making its Web site fully accessible to blind computer
>>>users.  Amazon's Web site has improved; nonetheless, Amazon
>>>recognizes that it is not yet fully accessible.  Amazon has
>>>indicated that it will complete the task within the extended
>>>period.
>>>
>>>Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind,
>>>said: "Full and equal access to the Internet is critical in order
>>>for the blind to participate fully in today's society.  While
>>>Amazon.com is not yet fully accessible, we are pleased with the
>>>progress that has been made and we believe that the company
>>>remains
>>>committed to making the site fully accessible.  We will continue
>>>to
>>>work with Amazon.com to ensure that the blind can shop for books,
>>>music, movies, and the myriad other products available at this
>>>leading online retailer with the same ease and convenience as all
>>>other shoppers."
>>>
>>>
>>># # #
>>>
>>>
>>
>> David Andrews and white cane Harry.
>>
>>
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