[gui-talk] Avast Home Edition - Was: Re: Is AVG FreeEditionv.7.5 being obsolesced by a free v. 8?

Josh jkenn337 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 28 18:42:49 CDT 2008 

Hi,
no, the two won't conflict with each other. And AVG missed a really bad 
virus that it let in that kept switching my programs tasks back and forth 
between each other, like someone hitting alt tab every half second.

Josh

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Avast Home Edition - Was: Re: Is AVG 
FreeEditionv.7.5 being obsolesced by a free v. 8?


> I'm a little unclear about something, here. Now, AVG has never run a virus
> scan and stopped and told me that a bunch of things were viruses that
> weren't viruses, though I'm sorry to hear it happened to you. But worse 
> than
> that, you report that a virus crashed your system and you had to rebuild
> from scratch-- and this happened on AVG's watch? Isn't that a pretty bad
> sign for AVG? Like, it didn't work when faced with a *real* virus? Never
> heard something like this. Please say more.
>
> Also, you say you installed SpyBot. Well, first of all, I still am running
> AdAware in the older edition that must be updated by downloading the new
> zipped definition files manually, because the new version is not Jaws
> friendly so far. And I run Windows Defender, too. Those two aren't 
> supposed
> to interfere with each other, because only one in running real time scans. 
> I
> think that's Windows Defender.
>
> But anyway, my point is that on the Avast site under the general 
> information
> about its features, it says it includes an anti spyware component, too. So
> do you know about this, are you aware of it, and you're also running 
> SpyBot
> because you know that it may plug up some gaps that Avast's anti spyware
> function leaves open, and you know the two won't conflict with each other?
> Or did you just not notice that Avast has an anti spyware thing going?
>
> thanks.
> ul youre
> If
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Josh" <jkenn337 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Avast Home Edition - Was: Re: Is AVG Free
> Editionv.7.5 being obsolesced by a free v. 8?
>
>
> Hi,
> As a new avast user for a month or so now, I have to say that it is the 
> best
> for being free. AVG seemed to flag lots of things on my machine as viruses
> that were not viruses. And I had to pay for McAfee when I had that one 
> after
> I left college. Also, avast plays nice little sounds to warn you of 
> viruses,
> and it even plays cool sounds when it performs its automatic update once 
> or
> twice a day or however much it has to. I am most satisifed with avast. 
> When
> my one friend told me about avast I really didn't believe him and just 
> kept
> on using AVG until a very nasty virus hit and I had to use my unattended
> install disc to reformat my computer. so after I put the disc in,
> reformatted it, and then braught up narrator to fill out its screens and 
> go
> into windows and set all my things back up, I got the latest spybot, as 
> well
> as avast and I haven't had a virus since. Well I had viruses attempt to 
> make
> their way in, but avast stopped them and I put them in the virus chest for
> emptying later which I do whenever there's a virus which isn't often.
>
> Josh
>
> email: jkenn337 at gmail.com
> msn: kenn6498ku at hotmail.com
> skype: jkenn337
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Avast Home Edition - Was: Re: Is AVG Free Edition
> v.7.5 being obsolesced by a free v. 8?
>
>
>> doris,
>>
>> thanks again. If AVG version 8 never becomes more Jaws friendly, I'll go
>> take a look at Avast. In fact, I'll probably check it out today, just out
>> of
>> curiosity. Meantime, don't worry about my cyber safety too much. The 
>> first
>> and only time I ever had a virus was back when the Happy 99 virus was
>> making
>> the rounds, and it had hijacked the account of a good friend of mine to
>> send
>> itself to me, and I innocently opened it. Since then, I've never opened 
>> an
>> unexpected file attachment (if it's from a friend or colleague, I write
>> back
>> and ask why they didn't mention the attachment in the message body of the
>> email), I've run AVG Free Edition, and I've got a hardware router so that
>> my
>> PC is pretty safe from being hacked. But I'll continue to be careful.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Chris & Doris" <chipmunks at gmx.net>
>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:05 PM
>> Subject: [gui-talk] Avast Home Edition - Was: Re: Is AVG Free Edition v.
>> 7.5
>> being obsolesced by a free v. 8?
>>
>>
>> Hi, Joel
>>
>> Glad i could be of help. The homepage for Avast Home is
>>
>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
>>
>> and it is probalby the best you can get for the price of US$0.00. <g>
>> I hear the program has gotten pretty usable for the blind by now and
>> several of my blind friends use it - and not all of those are
>> computer geeks. <g>
>>
>> I am not sure of which commercial antivirus package is very
>> blind-friendly. I have heard that f-secure for windows used to be
>> speech friendly but that was several years ago and those things tend to
>> change.
>>
>> Good luck and safe computing!
>> Doris
>>
>>
>>
>>>yo Doris,
>>>
>>>thanks a lot. That's what I was missing and hoping for. I never heard the
>>>news about the upgrade that happened last week. Now I get it. I don't 
>>>very
>>>much mind needing a pair of eyes for dealing with the occasional CAPTCHA 
>>>I
>>>encounter, as I've got a routine worked out with a friend where he can 
>>>log
>>>into some things under my ID and pass and take care of it. We used to do
>>>this elaborate dance every time I wanted to post a Craig's List ad, for
>>>example, although Craig's List finally broke down and installed an audio
>>>alternative to the visual CAPTCHA, bless their hearts.
>>>
>>>Thanks again. I'll keep your recommendations on file. Although money does
>>>matter to me, I would be willing to use a paid antivirus service if any 
>>>of
>>>those were known to be really nice and Jaws friendly and/or there were
>>>scripts for them. But I don't think much attention has been paid, either
>>>on
>>>their side or on our side (FS and/or personal script writers) to any of
>>>this
>>>stuff. So it goes.
>>>
>>>Joel
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Chris & Doris" <chipmunks at gmx.net>
>>>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:51 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Is AVG Free Edition v. 7.5 being obsolesced by a
>>>free v. 8?
>>>
>>>
>>>There is an AVG free edition out brandnew as of April 23rd. It is not
>>>very accessible at all and apparently crashes wen jaws is running.
>>>
>>>ACG free 7.5 is still being updated for the time being. Mine does nag
>>>me with a banner to upgrade from time to time but I can just close
>>>out of that nag screen with an alt+f4.
>>>
>>>I would stick with avg free 7.5 for now and see whawtwill be done
>>>about the accessibility issues of version 8.0. Unless they are
>>>resolved, I would personally switch to another free antivirus package
>>>once avg free 7.5 is no longer updated.
>>>
>>>Free alternatives are Avast Home edition or Antivir Personal. The
>>>former seems to be the more sophisticated of the two free offerings
>>>but will require a pair of eyes every year because avast home
>>>requires a free registration or reregistration every 12 months which
>>>unfortuantley involves some visual verification gizmo with no audio
>>>alternative that I am aware of. Antivir is a bit more basic but
>>>easier to handle and pretty accessible also.
>>>
>>>hth
>>>
>>>Doris
>>>At 12:19 PM 4/28/2008 -0700, you wrote:
>>>
>>> >On the JFW and Blind Tech lists, a number of people have been going 
>>> >back
>>> >and
>>> >forth about how to find, download and cope with what they vaguely refer
>>> >to
>>> >as AVG version 8. It seems that a relatively few stalwart Jaws jockeys
>>> >have
>>> >figured out how to use it with the Jaws cursor and a bunch of
>>> >workarounds,
>>> >but the general consensus among the non-clever seems to be that it's 
>>> >not
>>> >what they want to hassle with.
>>> >
>>> >Meantime, my AVG Free Edition keeps on being updated daily, works okay
>>> >when
>>> >I manually run a scan every few days, and has never displayed an update
>>> >notice and invitation to upgrade. Ever.  And believe me, some of my
>>> >programs
>>> >are not shy about that; every so often, Winamp presents an update
>>> >dialogue
>>> >when it launches, a dialogue I can't touch with Jaws and which blocks 
>>> >my
>>> >access to the player's controls.
>>> >
>>> >I Curious to learn more,I went to the appropriate Grisoft page for the
>>> >free
>>> >download of AVG, but the text around the download link doesn't say 
>>> >which
>>> >version the free version currently is. And then there's some 
>>> >promotional
>>> >information about Version 8, but I swear they refer to it as a security
>>> >suite, not just the simple antivirus program that's all I have and all 
>>> >I
>>> >want. And there's a table there that seems to indicate that they want
>>> >$35
>>> >for the personal version and $55 for the company one. So how is this a
>>> >replacement for mine? But the mailing list people keep talking about
>>> >this
>>> >stuff , and I just can't figure out what's happening from reading the
>>> >messages in these threads.
>>> >
>>> >I asked about this on JFW, and no one has replied. And I don't want to
>>> >ask
>>> >on Blind Tech, because instead of a congenial, informative response 
>>> >from
>>> >someone who knows, the first reply will be from a certain person who
>>> >feels
>>> >it incumbent upon him to lecture me about how I must not be a
>>> >disciplined
>>> >Jaws user or I would know that you use this command to do this, and you
>>> >refer to this page element by that name, and how all blind computer
>>> >users
>>> >must learn to avail themselves of tutorial material and learn the
>>> >rudiments
>>> >of Windows and Jaws, yadda yadda. I'm serious. This person does this
>>> >stuff,
>>> >this pedagogical pontificating, at the drop of a hat. So I can't write
>>> >my
>>> >inquiry freely, as I've done here, and expect a friendly,
>>> >straightforward
>>> >reply without overexplanation (another thing he always does) and a
>>> >lecture.
>>> >I wrote him privately once and asked why he does this, and he said that
>>> >he
>>> >knows that I may understand more than that about how to use my 
>>> >computer,
>>> >Windows, and Jaws, but he feels a responsibility to use every list
>>> >question
>>> >as an opportunity to educate everyone, etc.
>>> >
>>> >Sorry to vent like this, but it's infuriating and frustrating. Because
>>> >Blind
>>> >Tech has the advantage of being high traffic and having a fair number 
>>> >of
>>> >sober, well informed subscribers, and so I feel badly about having to
>>> >avoid
>>> >it. Oh, well.
>>> >
>>> >So , does anybody know what's up with AVG and its free editions? Am I
>>> >okay
>>> >standing pat, so long as AVG doesn't send me a notice saying they won't
>>> >be
>>> >updating the definitions for v. 7.5 anymore?
>>> >
>>> >thanks, all. Again, sorry for the rant. Please indulge me this one 
>>> >time.
>>> >Thanks a lot.
>>> >
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> >Checked by AVG.
>>> >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1401 - Release Date:
>>> >4/28/2008 7:18 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Pray, pray, pray!" - Pray without ceasing. (1 Th 5:17)
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>No virus found in this outgoing message.
>>>Checked by AVG.
>>>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1401 - Release Date: 
>>>4/28/2008
>>>7:18 AM
>>>
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>>>4/28/2008 7:18 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> "Pray, pray, pray!" - Pray without ceasing. (1 Th 5:17)
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> Checked by AVG.
>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1401 - Release Date: 
>> 4/28/2008
>> 7:18 AM
>>
>>
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