[gui-talk] Avast Home Edition - Was: Re: Is AVG Free Edition v.7.5 being obsolesced by a free v. 8?

Mon Apr 28 17:30:58 CDT 2008

Josh,

thanks for this info. Would you mind saying more about captchakiller? I 
don't mind going to the site to check it out, but I'd love to know from you 
what it does and whether or not you've been able to make satisfied use of it 
on occasion.

thanks.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Josh" <jkenn337 at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Avast Home Edition - Was: Re: Is AVG Free Edition 
v.7.5 being obsolesced by a free v. 8?

Hi,
and if you need help with the image captcha, email support and they'll give
you a key, or just use www.captchakiller.com .

Josh

email: jkenn337 at gmail.com
msn: kenn6498ku at hotmail.com
skype: jkenn337
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris & Doris" <chipmunks at gmx.net>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:05 PM
Subject: [gui-talk] Avast Home Edition - Was: Re: Is AVG Free Edition v. 7.5
being obsolesced by a free v. 8?

> Hi, Joel
>
> Glad i could be of help. The homepage for Avast Home is
>
> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
>
> and it is probalby the best you can get for the price of US$0.00. <g>
> I hear the program has gotten pretty usable for the blind by now and
> several of my blind friends use it - and not all of those are
> computer geeks. <g>
>
> I am not sure of which commercial antivirus package is very
> blind-friendly. I have heard that f-secure for windows used to be
> speech friendly but that was several years ago and those things tend to
> change.
>
> Good luck and safe computing!
> Doris
>
>
>
>>yo Doris,
>>
>>thanks a lot. That's what I was missing and hoping for. I never heard the
>>news about the upgrade that happened last week. Now I get it. I don't very
>>much mind needing a pair of eyes for dealing with the occasional CAPTCHA I
>>encounter, as I've got a routine worked out with a friend where he can log
>>into some things under my ID and pass and take care of it. We used to do
>>this elaborate dance every time I wanted to post a Craig's List ad, for
>>example, although Craig's List finally broke down and installed an audio
>>alternative to the visual CAPTCHA, bless their hearts.
>>
>>Thanks again. I'll keep your recommendations on file. Although money does
>>matter to me, I would be willing to use a paid antivirus service if any of
>>those were known to be really nice and Jaws friendly and/or there were
>>scripts for them. But I don't think much attention has been paid, either
>>on
>>their side or on our side (FS and/or personal script writers) to any of
>>this
>>stuff. So it goes.
>>
>>Joel
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Chris & Doris" <chipmunks at gmx.net>
>>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:51 PM
>>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Is AVG Free Edition v. 7.5 being obsolesced by a
>>free v. 8?
>>
>>
>>There is an AVG free edition out brandnew as of April 23rd. It is not
>>very accessible at all and apparently crashes wen jaws is running.
>>
>>ACG free 7.5 is still being updated for the time being. Mine does nag
>>me with a banner to upgrade from time to time but I can just close
>>out of that nag screen with an alt+f4.
>>
>>I would stick with avg free 7.5 for now and see whawtwill be done
>>about the accessibility issues of version 8.0. Unless they are
>>resolved, I would personally switch to another free antivirus package
>>once avg free 7.5 is no longer updated.
>>
>>Free alternatives are Avast Home edition or Antivir Personal. The
>>former seems to be the more sophisticated of the two free offerings
>>but will require a pair of eyes every year because avast home
>>requires a free registration or reregistration every 12 months which
>>unfortuantley involves some visual verification gizmo with no audio
>>alternative that I am aware of. Antivir is a bit more basic but
>>easier to handle and pretty accessible also.
>>
>>hth
>>
>>Doris
>>At 12:19 PM 4/28/2008 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>> >On the JFW and Blind Tech lists, a number of people have been going back
>> >and
>> >forth about how to find, download and cope with what they vaguely refer
>> >to
>> >as AVG version 8. It seems that a relatively few stalwart Jaws jockeys
>> >have
>> >figured out how to use it with the Jaws cursor and a bunch of
>> >workarounds,
>> >but the general consensus among the non-clever seems to be that it's not
>> >what they want to hassle with.
>> >
>> >Meantime, my AVG Free Edition keeps on being updated daily, works okay
>> >when
>> >I manually run a scan every few days, and has never displayed an update
>> >notice and invitation to upgrade. Ever.  And believe me, some of my
>> >programs
>> >are not shy about that; every so often, Winamp presents an update
>> >dialogue
>> >when it launches, a dialogue I can't touch with Jaws and which blocks my
>> >access to the player's controls.
>> >
>> >I Curious to learn more,I went to the appropriate Grisoft page for the
>> >free
>> >download of AVG, but the text around the download link doesn't say which
>> >version the free version currently is. And then there's some promotional
>> >information about Version 8, but I swear they refer to it as a security
>> >suite, not just the simple antivirus program that's all I have and all I
>> >want. And there's a table there that seems to indicate that they want
>> >$35
>> >for the personal version and $55 for the company one. So how is this a
>> >replacement for mine? But the mailing list people keep talking about
>> >this
>> >stuff , and I just can't figure out what's happening from reading the
>> >messages in these threads.
>> >
>> >I asked about this on JFW, and no one has replied. And I don't want to
>> >ask
>> >on Blind Tech, because instead of a congenial, informative response from
>> >someone who knows, the first reply will be from a certain person who
>> >feels
>> >it incumbent upon him to lecture me about how I must not be a
>> >disciplined
>> >Jaws user or I would know that you use this command to do this, and you
>> >refer to this page element by that name, and how all blind computer
>> >users
>> >must learn to avail themselves of tutorial material and learn the
>> >rudiments
>> >of Windows and Jaws, yadda yadda. I'm serious. This person does this
>> >stuff,
>> >this pedagogical pontificating, at the drop of a hat. So I can't write
>> >my
>> >inquiry freely, as I've done here, and expect a friendly,
>> >straightforward
>> >reply without overexplanation (another thing he always does) and a
>> >lecture.
>> >I wrote him privately once and asked why he does this, and he said that
>> >he
>> >knows that I may understand more than that about how to use my computer,
>> >Windows, and Jaws, but he feels a responsibility to use every list
>> >question
>> >as an opportunity to educate everyone, etc.
>> >
>> >Sorry to vent like this, but it's infuriating and frustrating. Because
>> >Blind
>> >Tech has the advantage of being high traffic and having a fair number of
>> >sober, well informed subscribers, and so I feel badly about having to
>> >avoid
>> >it. Oh, well.
>> >
>> >So , does anybody know what's up with AVG and its free editions? Am I
>> >okay
>> >standing pat, so long as AVG doesn't send me a notice saying they won't
>> >be
>> >updating the definitions for v. 7.5 anymore?
>> >
>> >thanks, all. Again, sorry for the rant. Please indulge me this one time.
>> >Thanks a lot.
>> >
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>> >
>> >--
>> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >Checked by AVG.
>> >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1401 - Release Date:
>> >4/28/2008 7:18 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>"Pray, pray, pray!" - Pray without ceasing. (1 Th 5:17)
>>
>>
>>--
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>>7:18 AM
>>
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>>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1401 - Release Date:
>>4/28/2008 7:18 AM
>
>
>
> "Pray, pray, pray!" - Pray without ceasing. (1 Th 5:17)
>
>
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> 7:18 AM
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