[gui-talk] Avast Home Edition - Was: Re: Is AVG Free Edition v. 7.5 being obsolesced by a free v. 8?

Josh jkenn337 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 28 17:24:33 CDT 2008 

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris & Doris" <chipmunks at gmx.net>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:05 PM
Subject: [gui-talk] Avast Home Edition - Was: Re: Is AVG Free Edition v. 7.5 
being obsolesced by a free v. 8?


> Hi, Joel
>
> Glad i could be of help. The homepage for Avast Home is
>
> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
>
> and it is probalby the best you can get for the price of US$0.00. <g>
> I hear the program has gotten pretty usable for the blind by now and
> several of my blind friends use it - and not all of those are
> computer geeks. <g>
>
> I am not sure of which commercial antivirus package is very
> blind-friendly. I have heard that f-secure for windows used to be
> speech friendly but that was several years ago and those things tend to 
> change.
>
> Good luck and safe computing!
> Doris
>
>
>
>>yo Doris,
>>
>>thanks a lot. That's what I was missing and hoping for. I never heard the
>>news about the upgrade that happened last week. Now I get it. I don't very
>>much mind needing a pair of eyes for dealing with the occasional CAPTCHA I
>>encounter, as I've got a routine worked out with a friend where he can log
>>into some things under my ID and pass and take care of it. We used to do
>>this elaborate dance every time I wanted to post a Craig's List ad, for
>>example, although Craig's List finally broke down and installed an audio
>>alternative to the visual CAPTCHA, bless their hearts.
>>
>>Thanks again. I'll keep your recommendations on file. Although money does
>>matter to me, I would be willing to use a paid antivirus service if any of
>>those were known to be really nice and Jaws friendly and/or there were
>>scripts for them. But I don't think much attention has been paid, either 
>>on
>>their side or on our side (FS and/or personal script writers) to any of 
>>this
>>stuff. So it goes.
>>
>>Joel
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Chris & Doris" <chipmunks at gmx.net>
>>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:51 PM
>>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Is AVG Free Edition v. 7.5 being obsolesced by a
>>free v. 8?
>>
>>
>>There is an AVG free edition out brandnew as of April 23rd. It is not
>>very accessible at all and apparently crashes wen jaws is running.
>>
>>ACG free 7.5 is still being updated for the time being. Mine does nag
>>me with a banner to upgrade from time to time but I can just close
>>out of that nag screen with an alt+f4.
>>
>>I would stick with avg free 7.5 for now and see whawtwill be done
>>about the accessibility issues of version 8.0. Unless they are
>>resolved, I would personally switch to another free antivirus package
>>once avg free 7.5 is no longer updated.
>>
>>Free alternatives are Avast Home edition or Antivir Personal. The
>>former seems to be the more sophisticated of the two free offerings
>>but will require a pair of eyes every year because avast home
>>requires a free registration or reregistration every 12 months which
>>unfortuantley involves some visual verification gizmo with no audio
>>alternative that I am aware of. Antivir is a bit more basic but
>>easier to handle and pretty accessible also.
>>
>>hth
>>
>>Doris
>>At 12:19 PM 4/28/2008 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>> >On the JFW and Blind Tech lists, a number of people have been going back
>> >and
>> >forth about how to find, download and cope with what they vaguely refer 
>> >to
>> >as AVG version 8. It seems that a relatively few stalwart Jaws jockeys 
>> >have
>> >figured out how to use it with the Jaws cursor and a bunch of 
>> >workarounds,
>> >but the general consensus among the non-clever seems to be that it's not
>> >what they want to hassle with.
>> >
>> >Meantime, my AVG Free Edition keeps on being updated daily, works okay 
>> >when
>> >I manually run a scan every few days, and has never displayed an update
>> >notice and invitation to upgrade. Ever.  And believe me, some of my
>> >programs
>> >are not shy about that; every so often, Winamp presents an update 
>> >dialogue
>> >when it launches, a dialogue I can't touch with Jaws and which blocks my
>> >access to the player's controls.
>> >
>> >I Curious to learn more,I went to the appropriate Grisoft page for the 
>> >free
>> >download of AVG, but the text around the download link doesn't say which
>> >version the free version currently is. And then there's some promotional
>> >information about Version 8, but I swear they refer to it as a security
>> >suite, not just the simple antivirus program that's all I have and all I
>> >want. And there's a table there that seems to indicate that they want 
>> >$35
>> >for the personal version and $55 for the company one. So how is this a
>> >replacement for mine? But the mailing list people keep talking about 
>> >this
>> >stuff , and I just can't figure out what's happening from reading the
>> >messages in these threads.
>> >
>> >I asked about this on JFW, and no one has replied. And I don't want to 
>> >ask
>> >on Blind Tech, because instead of a congenial, informative response from
>> >someone who knows, the first reply will be from a certain person who 
>> >feels
>> >it incumbent upon him to lecture me about how I must not be a 
>> >disciplined
>> >Jaws user or I would know that you use this command to do this, and you
>> >refer to this page element by that name, and how all blind computer 
>> >users
>> >must learn to avail themselves of tutorial material and learn the 
>> >rudiments
>> >of Windows and Jaws, yadda yadda. I'm serious. This person does this 
>> >stuff,
>> >this pedagogical pontificating, at the drop of a hat. So I can't write 
>> >my
>> >inquiry freely, as I've done here, and expect a friendly, 
>> >straightforward
>> >reply without overexplanation (another thing he always does) and a 
>> >lecture.
>> >I wrote him privately once and asked why he does this, and he said that 
>> >he
>> >knows that I may understand more than that about how to use my computer,
>> >Windows, and Jaws, but he feels a responsibility to use every list 
>> >question
>> >as an opportunity to educate everyone, etc.
>> >
>> >Sorry to vent like this, but it's infuriating and frustrating. Because
>> >Blind
>> >Tech has the advantage of being high traffic and having a fair number of
>> >sober, well informed subscribers, and so I feel badly about having to 
>> >avoid
>> >it. Oh, well.
>> >
>> >So , does anybody know what's up with AVG and its free editions? Am I 
>> >okay
>> >standing pat, so long as AVG doesn't send me a notice saying they won't 
>> >be
>> >updating the definitions for v. 7.5 anymore?
>> >
>> >thanks, all. Again, sorry for the rant. Please indulge me this one time.
>> >Thanks a lot.
>> >
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>> >
>> >--
>> >No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >Checked by AVG.
>> >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1401 - Release Date:
>> >4/28/2008 7:18 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>"Pray, pray, pray!" - Pray without ceasing. (1 Th 5:17)
>>
>>
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>>7:18 AM
>>
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>>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1401 - Release Date:
>>4/28/2008 7:18 AM
>
>
>
> "Pray, pray, pray!" - Pray without ceasing. (1 Th 5:17)
>
>
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> Checked by AVG.
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> 7:18 AM
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