[gui-talk] Free screenreaderswasRE:ThunderscreenreaderfreeforALL

Sun Apr 13 14:29:06 CDT 2008

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Josh" <jkenn337 at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Free 
screenreaderswasRE:ThunderscreenreaderfreeforALL


> Hi jaybey,
>
> What screen reader do you have?
>
> Josh
>
> email: jkenn337 at gmail.com
> msn: kenn6498ku at hotmail.com
> skype: jkenn337
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "jaybee" <jayjohnson62 at bellsouth.net>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 2:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Free screenreaders
> wasRE:ThunderscreenreaderfreeforALL
>
>
>> Thanks Josh.  I have a screen reader, but I want to check them out. 
>> Again
>> thanks for the info.  Jaybee
>> Things eyes of flesh can't see are in the mind.
>> To those with perfect sight:  I am not blind!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Josh" <jkenn337 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Free screenreaders was
>> RE:ThunderscreenreaderfreeforALL
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> NVDA, is at:
>>>
>>> www.nvda-project.org
>>>
>>> I recommend getting the latest snapshot by going to downloads, then
>>> snapshots.
>>>
>>> system access to go.
>>>
>>> www.satogo.com
>>>
>>> It's better than NVDA, but does not work with firefox or thunderbird
>>> email.
>>> if you want to use those, use NVDA.
>>>
>>> Thunder is at:
>>>
>>> www.screenreader.net .
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>> email: jkenn337 at gmail.com
>>> msn: kenn6498ku at hotmail.com
>>> skype: jkenn337
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "jaybee" <jayjohnson62 at bellsouth.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Free screenreaders was
>>> RE:Thunderscreenreaderfreefor
>>> ALL
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Group.  I've followed this thread about free screen readers, but I
>>>> have
>>>> not heard where they can be obtained.  If I missed it, will someone
>>>> please
>>>> post the link again where they can be downloaded.  Thanks.  Jaybee
>>>> Things eyes of flesh can't see are in the mind.
>>>> To those with perfect sight:  I am not blind!
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy at charter.net>
>>>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:34 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Free screenreaders was RE:
>>>> Thunderscreenreaderfreefor ALL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I did log in, but I think the same thing happens regardless, I think
>>>>>someone
>>>>> was wondering if sa to go supports braille displays, currently it
>>>>> doesn't,
>>>>> but I think it's something that will be added at some point.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Josh" <jkenn337 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 6:52 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Free screenreaders was RE: Thunder
>>>>> screenreaderfreefor ALL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you used satogo, did you log in, or did you continue without
>>>>>> logging
>>>>>> in?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> email: jkenn337 at gmail.com
>>>>>> msn: kenn6498ku at hotmail.com
>>>>>> skype: jkenn337
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy at charter.net>
>>>>>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:08 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Free screenreaders was RE: Thunder screen
>>>>>> readerfreefor ALL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Sa to go works very well, but there's one strange thing I've
>>>>>> > noticed.
>>>>>> > It
>>>>>> > keeps a copy of internet explorer running in the background, you'll
>>>>>> > see
>>>>> it
>>>>>> > in the task manager as iexplore.exe, and as you use sa to go, that
>>>>> process
>>>>>> > takes more and more memory. If you end it though, in a few minutes
>>>>>> > it
>>>>> says
>>>>>> > that it no longer has an internet connection and stops functioning.
>>>>>> > I've
>>>>>> > played with nvda a bit also, I think sa to go may work a bit 
>>>>>> > better,
>>>>>> > but
>>>>>> > need to do more testing.
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> > From: "slery" <slerythema at insightbb.com>
>>>>>> > To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 10:29 AM
>>>>>> > Subject: [gui-talk] Free screenreaders was RE: Thunder screen 
>>>>>> > reader
>>>>>> > freefor
>>>>>> > ALL
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> In your (all listers with experience) opinion, which do you like
>>>>> better,
>>>>>> >> NVDA or SaToGo?  And why?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I have used NVDA in the past, and I liked it for the most part.
>>>>>> >> The
>>>>>> > things
>>>>>> >> I didn't like, are likely to be fixed in the latest release but I
>>>>> haven't
>>>>>> >> tried that out yet.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I have not used SaToGo yet, but plan on trying it soon.  Does it
>>>>>> >> currently
>>>>>> >> have support for braille displays?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> My experience with screenreaders has been based on very little
>>>>>> >> training
>>>>>> > with
>>>>>> >> JAWS which I do not use now and never really used.  I need to
>>>>>> >> really
>>>>>> >> start
>>>>>> >> forcing myself to migrate to using a screenreader all the time and
>>>>>> >> I
>>>>> will
>>>>>> > be
>>>>>> >> using the free options until I can afford Window-Eyes (please do
>>>>>> >> not
>>>>> tell
>>>>>> > me
>>>>>> >> about the payment options, I am aware and know my own budget).  I
>>>>>> >> would
>>>>>> >> be
>>>>>> >> happy to stick with a free option if it will allow me to use a
>>>>>> >> braille
>>>>>> >> display.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I look forward to hearing opinions.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Cindy
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >> > From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> >> > [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh
>>>>>> >> > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:41 AM
>>>>>> >> > To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>>>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Thunder screen reader free for ALL
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Hi,
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Thunder has been around for about 2 or 3 years now. In my
>>>>>> >> > opinion, NVDA is
>>>>>> >> > better, and system access to go is better than thunder is.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Josh
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > email: jkenn337 at gmail.com
>>>>>> >> > msn: kenn6498ku at hotmail.com
>>>>>> >> > skype: jkenn337
>>>>>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> >> > From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>>>> >> > To: <promotion-technology at nfbnet.org>; <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>;
>>>>>> >> > <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>; <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; <rehab at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> >> > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:54 AM
>>>>>> >> > Subject: [gui-talk] Thunder screen reader free for ALL
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > >
>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>> >> > >>Colleagues,
>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>> >> > >>The arsenal of free screen reader alternatives is growing.
>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>> >> > >>Regards,
>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>> >> > >>Pratik
>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >> > >>From: athen-bounces at athenpro.org
>>>>>> >> > [mailto:athen-bounces at athenpro.org]
>>>>>> >> > >>On Behalf Of E.A. Draffan
>>>>>> >> > >>Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 5:22 AM
>>>>>> >> > >>To: 'Discussion list for disabled students and their
>>>>>> >> > support staff.';
>>>>>> >> > >>'A discussion list for Assistive Technology
>>>>>> >> > professionals.'; 'Access
>>>>>> >> > >>Technologists in Higher Education Network'; Techdis mail list
>>>>>> >> > >>Subject: [Athen] FW: Thunder screen reader free for ALL
>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>> >> > >>Apologies for cross posting with this news but I feel it
>>>>>> >> > may be useful
>>>>>> >> > >>to many folks including those testing websites for
>>>>>> >> > >>accessibility
>>>>>> >> > >>issues. Thunder screen reader is now free to all
>>>>>> >> > organisations and all individuals
>>>>>> >> > >>and can be downloaded from http://www.screenreader.net/   A
>>>>>> >> > >>useful
>>>>>> >> > >>addition
>>>>>> >> > >>is when it works with WebbIE text browser
>>>>>> >> > >>http://www.webbie.org.uk/
>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>> >> > >>Best wishes E.A.
>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>> >> > >>Mrs E.A. Draffan
>>>>>> >> > >>Learning Societies Lab,
>>>>>> >> > >>ECS, University of Southampton,
>>>>>> >> > >>Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246
>>>>>> >> > >>http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk
>>>>>> >> > >>http://www.emptech.info
>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>> >> > >>_______________________________________________
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>>>>>> >> > >
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