[gui-talk] Downloading Digital Talking Books from NLS
Mike Freeman
k7uij at panix.com
Wed Sep 12 23:38:13 CDT 2007
Why not use WMP? Too easily hacked.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: bob jutzi
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Downloading Digital Talking Books from NLS
What am I missing? How is it that the technology exists to crank out
these outrageously-priced players; however, they don't seem to be able
to offer a cheaper solution? How about offering a Windows Media
Player
plug-in which would temporarily allow DTB's to be played on a PC.
Since
the loaner NLS players are slated for release next year, they could
set
an '08 expiration date for the WMP plug-in. I'll just stick with
Audible til then.
Bob
Don Moore wrote:
> True on both counts. I just checked with Humanware to find out if
they have an approximate date for Audible compatibility and they don't.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Downloading Digital Talking Books from NLS
>
>
> I think I read that the loaner players will not be available until
next
> year. The Victor Reader Stream costs $329, or, at least, that's
what I
> paid for mine.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of bob jutzi
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:38 AM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Downloading Digital Talking Books from NLS
>
> OK, I've been approved and am in the process of downloading a book.
> Since I chose the "loaner player" option during signup, will my
regional
> library send me a player? If not, how do I get the Victor player
and
> how expensive is it?
>
> Curtis Delzer wrote:
>
>> You either wait for the NLS player from your regional library or
buy a
>>
>
>
>> player capable of playing the NLS formatted books E.G. the Victor
>>
> Stream.
>
>>
>> Curtis Delzer
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "bob jutzi" <jutzi at windstream.net>
>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Downloading Digital Talking Books from NLS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I just completed the form. How do I go about getting a player?
Am
>>> extremely interested.
>>>
>>> Les Kriegler wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Dave and All,
>>>>
>>>> Does this mean that the Victor Reader Classic is not capable of
>>>> playing NLS digital books? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Les
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:31 PM
>>>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org; nfb-talk at nfbnet.org; napub at nfbnet.org;
>>>> promotion-technology at nfbnet.org; nfbcs at nfbnet.org;
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org; blindkid at nfbnet.org; blparent at nfbnet.org;
>>>> blind-rollers at nfbnet.org; gui-talk at nfbnet.org;
>>>> electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [gui-talk] Downloading Digital Talking Books from NLS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The National Library Service for the Blind and Physically
>>>>> Handicapped, NLS, here in the U.S. is now expanding its pilot
>>>>>
> download program.
>
>>>>> Below is information on what is required, what you do, and what
>>>>> will happen. Basically, if you have a NLS-capable player, the
>>>>> Victor Stream at this point, you can register with NLS, and get
an
>>>>> authorization key
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> >from Humanware.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This will allow you to download, and play NLS digital talking
books
>>>>>
>
>
>>>>> to the Stream. You of course need a high speed internet
>>>>> connection, and an active e-mail account.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have participated in the NLS initial pilot download project
for
>>>>> almost a year now, and I have to say the books, and convenience
are
>>>>>
>
>
>>>>> great. If you have a Victor Reader Stream, I think you will
love
>>>>>
> this.
>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Further, there are approximately 7000 books on the download site.
>>>> they are a mix of current, and older books.
>>>> There are also magazine issues for things like Analog, People,
U.S.
>>>> News and World Report, Bon Apetit, Discover, Money, Consumer
>>>> Reports, Sound and Vision, Smart Computing, and others.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> __Prerequisites for participation in the expanded Download
Pilot__
>>>>>
>>>>> A patron wishing to participate in the expanded Download Pilot
>>>>> should:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Be an active patron of a cooperating network library
>>>>>
>>>>> * Have access to a player capable of playing NLS-produced
>>>>> digital
>>>>> talking books
>>>>>
>>>>> * Have high-speed Internet service such as DSL or cable
>>>>>
>>>>> * Have access to a computer connected to the Internet for
>>>>> downloading
>>>>> and
>>>>> unzipping books and/or magazines
>>>>>
>>>>> * Have access to an active e-mail address
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> __The application process__
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrons interested in participating in the expanded Download
Pilot
>>>>> should be directed to the online application page which can be
>>>>> found at www.nlstalkingbooks.org/dtb. This page provides basic
>>>>> information about the service and a link to the application
form.
>>>>> Once the form is submitted to NLS, the following actions will
>>>>> occur:
>>>>>
>>>>> * The applicant will immediately receive an e-mail confirming
>>>>> that NLS
>>>>> has
>>>>> received the application.
>>>>>
>>>>> * The data on the form will be verified against the CMLS
>>>>> database to
>>>>> ensure that
>>>>> the applicant is an active patron of a cooperating network
>>>>> library and that all
>>>>> data is accurate.
>>>>>
>>>>> * If all supplied information can be verified:
>>>>>
>>>>> * The patron will receive a second e-mail relaying
the
>>>>> approval
>>>>> of the
>>>>> account request and that additional information
will
>>>>> follow.
>>>>> A third e-mail will
>>>>> include a username, password, and instructions for
>>>>> participation and
>>>>> obtaining help.
>>>>>
>>>>> * The network library will receive an e-mail
>>>>> notification that
>>>>> the patron was
>>>>> accepted for participation in the expanded
Download
>>>>> Pilot.
>>>>> For every
>>>>> accepted patron, the library should add the code
>>>>>
> DDB9"
>
>>>>> to the CMLS
>>>>> record for that patron.
>>>>>
>>>>> * An e-mail will be sent to the third-party
>>>>> manufacturer (if
>>>>> applicable) with
>>>>> authorization to enable the patron's player. This
>>>>> authorization will most
>>>>> likely take the form of the manufacturer sending
an
>>>>> e-mail to the patron with
>>>>> the authorization key as an attachment.
>>>>>
>>>>> * If it is found that the patron is not an active NLS patron
or
>>>>> if any
>>>>> data supplied
>>>>> by the patron does not match the CMLS record, the following
>>>>> will
>>>>> occur:
>>>>>
>>>>> * The patron will receive a second e-mail notification
>>>>> stating
>>>>> that active status
>>>>> could not be verified. This e-mail will advise
the
>>>>> patron to contact the local network library.
>>>>>
>>>>> * The network library will receive an e-mail notification
>>>>> that
>>>>> an individual in its
>>>>> service area has applied for the expanded Download
>>>>> Pilot but was not
>>>>> accepted for participation. If the patron was not
>>>>> accepted because of an
>>>>> inconsistency in the data supplied by the patron
and
>>>>> the data in the CMLS
>>>>> record, this e-mail will include a comment
advising
>>>>> the library of the inconsistent data.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> __Technical support__
>>>>>
>>>>> Refer inquiries about the operation of the player to the
>>>>> third-party manufacturer. NLS will provide technical support
for
>>>>> the expanded Download Pilot. Participants in the expanded
Download
>>>>> Pilot will have access to extensive online help information.
They
>>>>> will also be invited to join a listserv where they can receive
help
>>>>>
> from other participants.
>
>>>>> Libraries should refer all technical support questions related
to
>>>>> the expanded Download Pilot to the web site's help page at
>>>>> www.nlstalkingbooks.org/dtb/support.html. In addition to the
>>>>> extensive help information, this page will provide instructions
for
>>>>>
>
>
>>>>> recovering a lost password and contact information for obtaining
>>>>>
> additional help.
>
>>>>> The e-mail
>>>>> address for help is nlsdownload at loc.gov.
>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Why not use WMP? Too easily hacked.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From:
mailto:jutzi at windstream.net bob jutzi
To:
mailto:gui-talk at nfbnet.org NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Sent:
Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:47 PM
Subject:
Re: [gui-talk] Downloading Digital Talking Books from NLS
What am I missing? How is it that the technology exists to crank out
these outrageously-priced players; however, they don't seem to be able
to offer a cheaper solution? How about offering a Windows Media Player
plug-in which would temporarily allow DTB's to be played on a PC. Since
the loaner NLS players are slated for release next year, they could set
an '08 expiration date for the WMP plug-in. I'll just stick with
Audible til then.
Bob
Don Moore wrote:
> True on both counts. I just checked with Humanware to find out if they have an approximate date for Audible compatibility and they don't.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Baracco, Andrew W" < mailto:Andrew.Baracco at va.gov Andrew.Baracco at va.gov
>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" < mailto:gui-talk at nfbnet.org gui-talk at nfbnet.org
>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Downloading Digital Talking Books from NLS
>
>
> I think I read that the loaner players will not be available until next
> year. The Victor Reader Stream costs $329, or, at least, that's what I
> paid for mine.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of bob jutzi
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:38 AM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Downloading Digital Talking Books from NLS
>
> OK, I've been approved and am in the process of downloading a book.
> Since I chose the "loaner player" option during signup, will my regional
> library send me a player? If not, how do I get the Victor player and
> how expensive is it?
>
> Curtis Delzer wrote:
>
>> You either wait for the NLS player from your regional library or buy a
>>
>
>
>> player capable of playing the NLS formatted books E.G. the Victor
>>
> Stream.
>
>>
>> Curtis Delzer
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "bob jutzi" < mailto:jutzi at windstream.net jutzi at windstream.net
>
>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" < mailto:gui-talk at nfbnet.org gui-talk at nfbnet.org
>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Downloading Digital Talking Books from NLS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I just completed the form. How do I go about getting a player? Am
>>> extremely interested.
>>>
>>> Les Kriegler wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Dave and All,
>>>>
>>>> Does this mean that the Victor Reader Classic is not capable of
>>>> playing NLS digital books? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Les
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:31 PM
>>>> To: mailto:blindtlk at nfbnet.org blindtlk at nfbnet.org
; mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
; mailto:napub at nfbnet.org napub at nfbnet.org
;
>>>> mailto:promotion-technology at nfbnet.org promotion-technology at nfbnet.org
; mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org nfbcs at nfbnet.org
;
>>>> mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org nabs-l at nfbnet.org
; mailto:blindkid at nfbnet.org blindkid at nfbnet.org
; mailto:blparent at nfbnet.org blparent at nfbnet.org
;
>>>> mailto:blind-rollers at nfbnet.org blind-rollers at nfbnet.org
; mailto:gui-talk at nfbnet.org gui-talk at nfbnet.org
;
>>>> mailto:electronics-talk at nfbnet.org electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [gui-talk] Downloading Digital Talking Books from NLS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The National Library Service for the Blind and Physically
>>>>> Handicapped, NLS, here in the U.S. is now expanding its pilot
>>>>>
> download program.
>
>>>>> Below is information on what is required, what you do, and what
>>>>> will happen. Basically, if you have a NLS-capable player, the
>>>>> Victor Stream at this point, you can register with NLS, and get an
>>>>> authorization key
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> >from Humanware.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This will allow you to download, and play NLS digital talking books
>>>>>
>
>
>>>>> to the Stream. You of course need a high speed internet
>>>>> connection, and an active e-mail account.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have participated in the NLS initial pilot download project for
>>>>> almost a year now, and I have to say the books, and convenience are
>>>>>
>
>
>>>>> great. If you have a Victor Reader Stream, I think you will love
>>>>>
> this.
>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Further, there are approximately 7000 books on the download site.
>>>> they are a mix of current, and older books.
>>>> There are also magazine issues for things like Analog, People, U.S.
>>>> News and World Report, Bon Apetit, Discover, Money, Consumer
>>>> Reports, Sound and Vision, Smart Computing, and others.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> __Prerequisites for participation in the expanded Download Pilot__
>>>>>
>>>>> A patron wishing to participate in the expanded Download Pilot
>>>>> should:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Be an active patron of a cooperating network library
>>>>>
>>>>> * Have access to a player capable of playing NLS-produced
>>>>> digital
>>>>> talking books
>>>>>
>>>>> * Have high-speed Internet service such as DSL or cable
>>>>>
>>>>> * Have access to a computer connected to the Internet for
>>>>> downloading
>>>>> and
>>>>> unzipping books and/or magazines
>>>>>
>>>>> * Have access to an active e-mail address
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> __The application process__
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrons interested in participating in the expanded Download Pilot
>>>>> should be directed to the online application page which can be
>>>>> found at http://www.nlstalkingbooks.org/dtb www.nlstalkingbooks.org/dtb
. This page provides basic
>>>>> information about the service and a link to the application form.
>>>>> Once the form is submitted to NLS, the following actions will
>>>>> occur:
>>>>>
>>>>> * The applicant will immediately receive an e-mail confirming
>>>>> that NLS
>>>>> has
>>>>> received the application.
>>>>>
>>>>> * The data on the form will be verified against the CMLS
>>>>> database to
>>>>> ensure that
>>>>> the applicant is an active patron of a cooperating network
>>>>> library and that all
>>>>> data is accurate.
>>>>>
>>>>> * If all supplied information can be verified:
>>>>>
>>>>> * The patron will receive a second e-mail relaying the
>>>>> approval
>>>>> of the
>>>>> account request and that additional information will
>>>>> follow.
>>>>> A third e-mail will
>>>>> include a username, password, and instructions for
>>>>> participation and
>>>>> obtaining help.
>>>>>
>>>>> * The network library will receive an e-mail
>>>>> notification that
>>>>> the patron was
>>>>> accepted for participation in the expanded Download
>>>>> Pilot.
>>>>> For every
>>>>> accepted patron, the library should add the code
>>>>>
> DDB9"
>
>>>>> to the CMLS
>>>>> record for that patron.
>>>>>
>>>>> * An e-mail will be sent to the third-party
>>>>> manufacturer (if
>>>>> applicable) with
>>>>> authorization to enable the patron's player. This
>>>>> authorization will most
>>>>> likely take the form of the manufacturer sending an
>>>>> e-mail to the patron with
>>>>> the authorization key as an attachment.
>>>>>
>>>>> * If it is found that the patron is not an active NLS patron or
>>>>> if any
>>>>> data supplied
>>>>> by the patron does not match the CMLS record, the following
>>>>> will
>>>>> occur:
>>>>>
>>>>> * The patron will receive a second e-mail notification
>>>>> stating
>>>>> that active status
>>>>> could not be verified. This e-mail will advise the
>>>>> patron to contact the local network library.
>>>>>
>>>>> * The network library will receive an e-mail notification
>>>>> that
>>>>> an individual in its
>>>>> service area has applied for the expanded Download
>>>>> Pilot but was not
>>>>> accepted for participation. If the patron was not
>>>>> accepted because of an
>>>>> inconsistency in the data supplied by the patron and
>>>>> the data in the CMLS
>>>>> record, this e-mail will include a comment advising
>>>>> the library of the inconsistent data.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> __Technical support__
>>>>>
>>>>> Refer inquiries about the operation of the player to the
>>>>> third-party manufacturer. NLS will provide technical support for
>>>>> the expanded Download Pilot. Participants in the expanded Download
>>>>> Pilot will have access to extensive online help information. They
>>>>> will also be invited to join a listserv where they can receive help
>>>>>
> from other participants.
>
>>>>> Libraries should refer all technical support questions related to
>>>>> the expanded Download Pilot to the web site's help page at
>>>>> http://www.nlstalkingbooks.org/dtb/support.html www.nlstalkingbooks.org/dtb/support.html
. In addition to the
>>>>> extensive help information, this page will provide instructions for
>>>>>
>
>
>>>>> recovering a lost password and contact information for obtaining
>>>>>
> additional help.
>
>>>>> The e-mail
>>>>> address for help is mailto:nlsdownload at loc.gov nlsdownload at loc.gov
.
>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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