[gui-talk] Need help moving through an Adobe .pdf doc

[Joel Deutsch]

Hi Andrew,

No, it's more than the one page. But something unusual is the matter with 
it. I emailed the person who sent it to me, asking if that one page worth of 
text, which I copied and pasted into the email to her, was all there'd been 
in the file. No, she said, and sent me the Word doc from which she'd created 
the .pdf.

So, fortunately, I have no immediate purpose in going in and making those 
tweaks to the settings for a problem that's never even arisen for me before 
this. Besides which, I'll soon be installing Adobe Reader 8, and so whatever 
I took time to set carefully according to your directions might be lost in 
the transition, anyway. But I'm going to keep your email in my GUI-Talk OE 
folder, and if I should encounter the same kind of hassle again, I'll take 
another look at your suggestions and try them out.

Meantime, thank you very much for taking the time to run down these 
suggestions so carefully.
Joel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Kirkpatrick" <akirkpat at adobe.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Need help moving through an Adobe .pdf doc


Joel,
My first question is how many pages is this document.  If it is only one
page then that might explain why ctrl+pgdn isn't doing anything.

The other thing to try is to see whether the document has been poorly
prepared for accessibility.  You can test this by overriding the reading
order.  To try this:
1) open reader preferences
2) select the "reading" category
3) find the "override the reading order in tagged documents" checkbox
and check it.
4) hit "ok" to close the preferences.
5) you might need to reopen the document, but Reader will then retag the
document, using Reader's internal mechanism rather than what the author
has provided.

In response to a possible "why don't we use this all the time" question,
the downside is that this is an entirely machine-driven process, so if
there are form controls to be labeled or images that need descriptive
text, you won't get any of that information through this process.  You
will be able to get confirmation about whether these is additional
information in the document however.

Let me know if this helps.
Thanks,
AWK


> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 5:37 PM
> To: GUI-Talk
> Subject: [gui-talk] Need help moving through an Adobe .pdf doc
>
> Usually when I open a .pdf document with Adobe Reader 7 (I've
> tried downloading and installing Version 8 but it's some new,
> confusing procedure that even a sighted friend who's an I T
> professional can't figure out how to manage).
>
> Anyway, someone sent me a .pdf document I'd like to read all
> of, but I'm being stopped at the bottom of what I presume is
> just the first page of many. As I was going to say first off,
> though I'm not a big .pdf kind of guy, when I do open one now
> and then, I never have this trouble. I can always read the
> entire thing, whether I do it with down arrowing, or a Jaws
> Say All, or using the page down command or whatever it is (I
> forget again) you're supposed to use in an Adobe document.
> But this one won't let me go farther then the bottom of one
> page. Or maybe it's just one screen, even.
>
> I went into the View menu, but I didn't understand the menu
> items and submenus. Can anyone with more expertise straighten
> me out? Thanks a lot.
>
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