[gui-talk] Accessibility of Windows Mail?

Mon May 28 19:29:25 CDT 2007

what if you are still using i e 6 then will you still get to use o e?
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "albert griffith" <albertpgriffith at hotmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Accessibility of Windows Mail?


> What's happening is that Windows Live Mail is going to be able to access 
> Hot
> Mail through the program like you can from the desk top with O.E.
> currently, that can't be done.  Presently, you can download I.E. 7 without
> loosing O.E.  However, it's thought that, soon, you will loose O.E. in 
> favor
> of Windows Live Mail when you update to I.E. 7.  Currently Vista users 
> have
> no choice but to use Windows Live Mail because it's installed by default
> along with I.E. 7.  Therefore it's recommended to download I.E. 7 now 
> before
> you have to take Windows Mail unless you don't care which E-mail client 
> you
> use.  And so it goes."
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Dave W
> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 8:29 AM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Accessibility of Windows Mail?
>
> Hello,
> Am I missing something here?  I try to keep up on things as much as 
> possible
> but have not heard anything about this.  Is OE going away?  Can  someone
> send a link so I can read more about this please.  Thanks,
>
>
>
> David Wermuth
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr at bellsouth.net>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 2:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Accessibility of Windows Mail?
>
>
>> >From what I understand, it's supposed to happen in a few weeks.  I
>> >noticed a
>> few points of aggravation with the beta of Windows live mail.
>>
>> 1.  When you go to compose a new message and you start to type in an
>> e-mail
>> address, Windows Live mail may or may not automatically populate the to
>> field with a complete e-mail address for you; but, whether it does or 
>> not,
>> you can't tell whether or not this has happened because JAWS won't give
>> you
>> feedback on this unless you tab to the subject line and back again.
>>
>> 2.  When entering the "unread mail" folder, and after you read a message
>> there, you don't get feedback on whether or not any other messages there
>> are
>> read or unread; so, you just have to remember which messages you read and
>> which you didn't.
>>
>> 3.  Still pertaining to the "Unread mail" folder, even after you read a
>> message and delete it, it will still show up in the folder until you tab
>> away from and back to it again.
>>
>> 4.  Messages don't get sent to any of your subfolders until after you've
>> read them in the "unread mail" folder.
>>
>> 5.  As you navigate up and down subfolders, you cannot use first letter
>> navigation to jump quickly to a desired folder.  Let's say for example
>> that
>> you have a folder called "PersonalMessages" and another called
>> "BankMessages".  Well, at least with the beta of Windows Live Mail
>> desktop,
>> you cannot jus press P to go to the personal messages folder nor B to 
>> jump
>> directly to the Bank messages folder.  You must use up and down arrows 
>> all
>> the time to go from one to another.  Furthermore, as you move up or down,
>> folder names get read twice sometimes.  For example, as you pass over the
>> Bank Messages folder, JAWS will say "BankMessages selected".  But then, 
>> as
>> you down arrow once again, The name of the same folder will often repeat
>> but
>> you won't hear "selected" this time.
>>
>> 6.  The address book does not exist in the beta version of Windows Live
>> Mail.  Instead, Windows Live Mail Beta Desktop replies on your Windows 
>> Lie
>> Messenger contact list.  That's why it makes you sign in to Windows Live
>> using your Windows Live ID and password.  Any groups you created in
>> Outlook
>> Express are now gone and you have no access to them at all.
>>
>> 7.  When scrolling up and down through your contacts list, all you see 
>> are
>> the e-mail addresses of your contacts.  This applies even if you've
>> imported
>> your address book.  No names are shown at all.
>>
>> 8.  You cannot use first letter navigation to quickly jump to a contact's
>> email address or name; if there is a name.  Instead, you must use up or
>> down
>> arrows to navigate.  this applies when you press control+shift+c to get 
>> in
>> to your contacts list area or press control+n to send a new message.
>>
>> 9.  The search edit box is no help when trying to quickly select a 
>> contact
>> to whom to send a message; and, neither is right clicking on a contact
>> helpful.
>>
>>    With such a laundry list, I sure hope they've cleaned this up by the
>> final release. IF not, I believe I can anticipate quite a few complaints.
>> I
>> also anticipate Freedom Scientific will need to issue a patch or two to
>> get
>> this fixed up.
>>
>> Sincerely yours,
>> The Constantly Barefooted,
>> Ray
>> Home phone and fax:
>> (985)853-0139
>> E-mail:
>> rforetjr at bellsouth.net
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
>> Blog:
>> www.raysworld.blogs.com
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>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/worldofray
>>
>> God bless President George W. Bush!
>> God bless our troops!
>> and God bless America
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jennifer Aberdeen" <freespirit328 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Accessibility of Windows Mail?
>>
>>
>> When is this change happening? Also, I thought IE 7 wasn't very acessible
>> with Jaws?
>>
>> Jen
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr at bellsouth.net>
>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Accessibility of Windows Mail?
>>
>>
>>> I'm using Windows Live Mail Beta right now.  There are a few things to
>>> get
>>> used to; but, so far, no accessibility issues that I can see.
>>>
>>> The only thing is I can't seem to find my address book even though it 
>>> was
>>> imported.  Guess I'll just have to keep playing with this one for now.
>>> Oh,
>>> one more thing.  When ever you type text in to the body of a message, 
>>> you
>>> have to go in to forms mode if using JAWS.  Hot keys, such as control+r
>>> to
>>> reply, control+n for new message, control+shift+r for reply to all and
>>> such
>>> all appear to be the same.  In short, I don't anticipate you'll have any
>>> major issues with Windows Mail.
>>>
>>> HTH.
>>>
>>> Sincerely yours,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted,
>>> Ray
>>> Home phone and fax:
>>> (985)853-0139
>>> E-mail:
>>> rforetjr at bellsouth.net
>>> Skype Name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> Blog:
>>> www.raysworld.blogs.com
>>> Podcast .rss FGod bless President George W. Bush!
>>> God bless our troops!
>>> and God bless America
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Don Moore" <don.moore48 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "Multiple recipients of NFBnet GUI-TALK Mailing List"
>>> <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:15 PM
>>> Subject: [gui-talk] Accessibility of Windows Mail?
>>>
>>> Since Windows Mail is supposed to be replacing Outlook Express for XP
>>> users
>>> soon, is there any information about the accessibility of the product
>>> with
>>> screen readers?  Thanks.
>>>
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