[gui-talk] IE7

Fri Jun 8 08:40:22 CDT 2007

Well, that's exactly what I've always taken "sound event" to mean, thanks. I 
guess I was briefly a little confused because RSS feed availability has 
never been announced to me with a sound effect, which I'd like to call this 
with a tolerant smile for technifying everything, calling problems "issues," 
knowledge "information," and the rest. Sound event. What is that, something 
derived from NASA vocabulary about things that happen during a space shuttle 
flight, like asteroids smashing into the hull? Sorry, just always makes me 
smile. anyway, I haven't had any sound events associated with RSS 
availability, nor climatic events, nor sports events, either. Guess my 
computer is out of the loop or something. It does say "RSS feeds available" 
when a page opens that has them, but I guess that isn't good enough? It's 
got to go "bing!" or "bong!" or "ratr-a-tat-a-tat?"

Nothing personal. Just having fun while still on my first mug of coffee out 
here in Pacific Daylight Time.

Thanks.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George and Pamela Dominguez" <geodom at optonline.net>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] IE7

>From what I understand, a sound event are those sounds that you hear in
windows, like the ding when you get to the end of where your cursor can go,
or the click when a thing is opening.  When you go into sounds, and you see
all the different things you can have sounds for, those things are called
sound events.  Pam.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] IE7

> Hi,
>
> I don't know what a "sound event" means, if it's not what I said I was
> already familiar with. I mean, when I load a Web page on which there's an
> announcement of RSS feed availability, Jaws says "RSS feeds available."
> Isn't that a "sound event?" Do I have to worry about turning it off and
on?
> It's perfectly practical. I guess I don't know why you mention this. Maybe
> you're talking about some sort of noise, instead?
>
> as for the second thing you say about how Control D will cause two
different
> dialogues to display, depending whether you're simply on a Web page (my
Alt
> A example is related to that, traditionally, and still works for me) or on
> an RSS page, did you call it? Hold on, let me arrow down to remind myself
> what that term is...ah, okay. An RSS feed link. I guess I don't understand
> this nomenclature, that's all. You mean, when a page announces that an RSS
> feed is available,that indicates that there is an actual RSS _link_ on the
> page which, if you can find it (how? with normal Jaws navigation, or by
> pressing Alt J, only?) you can either click on it (to what purpose?) or,
> with it selected, press Control D and get an add RSS feed dialogue instead
> of an Add Favorite dialogue? Is that it? Is the control D reliant on
> context?
>
> And I'm using Jaws 8, so although I don't know what you meant by how it
> produces an XML stylesheet or what happens when it does, that part is okay
> for me not to get, I guess.
>
> I think I'd be best off just studying up on how RSS works with IE7,I
suppose
> by looking at that topic in the IE7 Help files. that would probably
explain
> to me these things that I think are second nature to you, and which I know
> too little about to ask the right questions.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>  stydiI
> m, you vailalbe.,
> know
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charles Oppermann" <chuckop at exchange.microsoft.com>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] IE7
>
>
> Another thing is that RSS feeds when they are found have a sound event
that
> can be controlled by the Sound and Audio control panel.  When you hear
that
> sound, you can press ALT+J to drop down the list of discovered feeds.
>
> --Chuck
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Charles Oppermann
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:45 PM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] IE7
>
> CTRL+D is the shortcut that adds a web page to the favorites, or a RSS
page
> to the list of feeds.
>
> If for example you are viewing my blog page at
> http://blogs.msdn.com/chuckop/, pressing CTRL+D will add that URL to the
> favorites list.
>
> If however you are viewing my RSS feed linked from the above page at
> http://blogs.msdn.com/chuckop/rss.xml, then pressing CTRL+D will add the
> feed to the feeds list.
>
> When IE7 encounters a raw RSS feed, it uses a XML style sheet to format in
a
> easy-to-read format, that is what Kelly meant by saying "one page view of
> the feed".
>
> Now, the bigger question of knowing when there is a RSS feed available for
a
> web page.  IE7 looks inside the page for a <link> tag that has the
> "type=application/rss+xml" attribute and another attributes that specify
the
> URL of the feed.
>
> When IE7 finds a RSS feed for a page, the RSS icon on the toolbar goes
from
> being disabled (grayed out) to enabled (bright orange color).  Pressing
> ALT+J will drop down a menu of the discovered feeds, there will be at
least
> one, and sometimes several.  Selecting a item in this menu and pressing
> enter will load the RSS page and the nicely formatted view of the page
> discussed above.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Charles Oppermann | Program Manager | Speech Components | Microsoft
> Corporation
> http://blogs.msdn.com/chuckop/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:49 AM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] IE7
>
> P.s.
>
> Kelly, I just pressed Control D on a Los angeles times section index page
> that announced RSS feeds were availalable as it opened. And what I heard
> from Jaws had nothing to do with tabs. I found myself in an "add to
> Favorites" dialogue, instead (which I would have done if I'd wanted to by
> pressing alt a, the old-fashioned way). Did I miss something? Or did
> something misbehave, even though I did the right thing?
> Thanks.
> ws
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kelly Ford" <kelly at kellford.com>
> To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] IE7
>
>
> Hello,
>
> If you are on the one page view of the feed, ctrl+d will add it to your
> subscriptions.  To bring up a list of feeds on the page, press alt+j, then
> select one from the menu and you'll be on the one page view for the feed.
> This is where you'd use ctrl+d.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Stephen Guerra
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:01 AM
> To: gui-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [gui-talk] IE7
>
> What is the keyboard shortcut for adding a feed to the rss list
>
>
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