[gui-talk] IE7

Wed Jun 6 15:49:11 CDT 2007

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Stephen A. Guerra
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-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 4:22 PM
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] IE7

Hi,

I don't know what a "sound event" means, if it's not what I said I was
already familiar with. I mean, when I load a Web page on which there's an
announcement of RSS feed availability, Jaws says "RSS feeds available." 
Isn't that a "sound event?" Do I have to worry about turning it off and on? 
It's perfectly practical. I guess I don't know why you mention this. Maybe
you're talking about some sort of noise, instead?

as for the second thing you say about how Control D will cause two different
dialogues to display, depending whether you're simply on a Web page (my Alt
A example is related to that, traditionally, and still works for me) or on
an RSS page, did you call it? Hold on, let me arrow down to remind myself
what that term is...ah, okay. An RSS feed link. I guess I don't understand
this nomenclature, that's all. You mean, when a page announces that an RSS
feed is available,that indicates that there is an actual RSS _link_ on the
page which, if you can find it (how? with normal Jaws navigation, or by
pressing Alt J, only?) you can either click on it (to what purpose?) or,
with it selected, press Control D and get an add RSS feed dialogue instead
of an Add Favorite dialogue? Is that it? Is the control D reliant on
context?

And I'm using Jaws 8, so although I don't know what you meant by how it
produces an XML stylesheet or what happens when it does, that part is okay
for me not to get, I guess.

I think I'd be best off just studying up on how RSS works with IE7,I suppose
by looking at that topic in the IE7 Help files. that would probably explain
to me these things that I think are second nature to you, and which I know
too little about to ask the right questions.

Thanks.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Oppermann" <chuckop at exchange.microsoft.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] IE7

Another thing is that RSS feeds when they are found have a sound event that 
can be controlled by the Sound and Audio control panel.  When you hear that 
sound, you can press ALT+J to drop down the list of discovered feeds.

--Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
Behalf Of Charles Oppermann
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:45 PM
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] IE7

CTRL+D is the shortcut that adds a web page to the favorites, or a RSS page 
to the list of feeds.

If for example you are viewing my blog page at 
http://blogs.msdn.com/chuckop/, pressing CTRL+D will add that URL to the 
favorites list.

If however you are viewing my RSS feed linked from the above page at 
http://blogs.msdn.com/chuckop/rss.xml, then pressing CTRL+D will add the 
feed to the feeds list.

When IE7 encounters a raw RSS feed, it uses a XML style sheet to format in a

easy-to-read format, that is what Kelly meant by saying "one page view of 
the feed".

Now, the bigger question of knowing when there is a RSS feed available for a

web page.  IE7 looks inside the page for a <link> tag that has the 
"type=application/rss+xml" attribute and another attributes that specify the

URL of the feed.

When IE7 finds a RSS feed for a page, the RSS icon on the toolbar goes from 
being disabled (grayed out) to enabled (bright orange color).  Pressing 
ALT+J will drop down a menu of the discovered feeds, there will be at least 
one, and sometimes several.  Selecting a item in this menu and pressing 
enter will load the RSS page and the nicely formatted view of the page 
discussed above.

Hope this helps,

Charles Oppermann | Program Manager | Speech Components | Microsoft 
Corporation
http://blogs.msdn.com/chuckop/

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:49 AM
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] IE7

P.s.

Kelly, I just pressed Control D on a Los angeles times section index page
that announced RSS feeds were availalable as it opened. And what I heard
from Jaws had nothing to do with tabs. I found myself in an "add to
Favorites" dialogue, instead (which I would have done if I'd wanted to by
pressing alt a, the old-fashioned way). Did I miss something? Or did
something misbehave, even though I did the right thing?
Thanks.
ws
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly Ford" <kelly at kellford.com>
To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] IE7

Hello,

If you are on the one page view of the feed, ctrl+d will add it to your
subscriptions.  To bring up a list of feeds on the page, press alt+j, then
select one from the menu and you'll be on the one page view for the feed.
This is where you'd use ctrl+d.

Kelly

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Stephen Guerra
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:01 AM
To: gui-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [gui-talk] IE7

What is the keyboard shortcut for adding a feed to the rss list

Stephen A. Guerra
Assistive Technology Specialist
Independent Living Aids

"Products for Your Active Independent Life!"

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