[gui-talk] One more try: Expanded/Collapsed out of control in OE

Joel Deutsch jdeutsch at dslextreme.com
Sun Jul 22 15:01:26 CDT 2007


Sherri,

I'm sorry, but as I told Scott, what's checked in that list is still what's 
always been checked. I checked it anyway, in case it had gotten changed 
without my realizing it. but no, it's still Order by date received. I've 
never set it to arrange the messages by thread. See? Something's really 
wrong. I knew it.

thanks a lot.
 hnever
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] One more try: Expanded/Collapsed out of control in 
OE


y Joel, As usual, once I looked around for about 20 minutes, I found out it
is very easy, though I don't know how to toggle this feature on and off.

1.  In Outlook Express outside a message go to view.
2. On current views, press enter.
3. Arrow down to group messages by conversation and make sure that is
unchecked.
4. Tab to okay and press enter. That should do it.

Sherri

Also, another user's group you might enjoy is accesscomp. To subscribe, send
an e-mail to
accesscomp-subscribe at yahoogroups.com
HTH.

Sherri
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
To: "GUI-Talk" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 2:09 PM
Subject: [gui-talk] One more try: Expanded/Collapsed out of control in OE


Hi,

As no one has yet responded to my inquiry on this issue, let me ask once
more in hopes of attracting helpful attention to my plight.

All of a sudden, messages in my Outlook express folders have begun to
announce themselves as expanded or collapsed. I suppose it affects just
emails that share a subject line, not only from mailing list threads but
just from private correspondence.

Well, I didn't set anything to mark my messages in this way. And the only
controls I know of that relate to this are on the View menu, where you can
choose expanded or collapsed. Which certainly does change the announced
status of affected messages, now that some of them are marked this way. But
what do you do to turn the whole damn thing off? I thought I knew the OE
interface pretty well by now, but this has taken me by surprise. And,
unaccustomed as I am to dealing with messages marked expanded or collapsed,
I've had the unpleasant experience of accidentally deleting and
double-deleting messages from a thread besides the specific one I really
wanted to toss. This led to a lot of extra work yesterday in some
professional correspondence. Not fun. Had to recreate all sorts of incoming
and outgoing messages. Too much to explain.

Now, I can only think of two ways this stuff could have begun happening. One
is that I may at some point have hit the wrong keystroke or hotkey
combination and toggled this deal on without knowing it; I'm sure I'm not
the only keyboarder who's made such a blunder now and then and been
mystified by the result, and had not idea how to undo the mistake. Or I
guess it could be some sort of file corruption? But for me, Outlook express
has been stable and dependable to the max, so I can't imagine how this could
have happened.

Anyway, I could swear I remember a discussion about expanded and collapsed
threads coming up before on the GUI-Talk list, about how to set up the
function and control it? the only other major tech support list I'm on is a
Jaws-related JFW list, and there I'm sure one of the many hall monitor prigs
would immediately have posted something sanctimonious about how unless I
were to say that I felt Jaws was at fault, my question was egregiously off
topic and I ought to be moderated. There's this little hard core of
cyber-itinerant control freaks there whom I've seen pop up on several other
lists over time, always trying to do the actual mod's job for him or her. So
it couldn't have been there.

sorry to vent. But that stuff just gets to me, sometimes. Any ideas about
this unwelcome collapse/expand thing?

thanks.

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