[gui-talk] Fwd: Yahoo Petition for Captcha fix

Fri Jul 20 02:43:23 CDT 2007

Darryl,

I tried writing them at their traditional help email address. Once I 
received an auto response assuring me that I'd soon get an email from a real 
person, but no one ever followed up. Second time I tried, I simply got no 
response at all, not even the auto-responder. I asked a good sighted friend 
to post a message about this issue in their user forum (I forgot their cute 
name for it, rants and raves or something) because of course I couldn't post 
to that section either, since the implementation of the capcha. I had him 
include my email address in that post, explaining that I could not access 
the forum board, or at least I couldn't respond there. But no one ever 
emailed me.

I had no idea that they may have added the audio feature. I haven't looked, 
so to speak, for a long time. I'll check and see if they've upgraded. I'd be 
nicely surprised.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i at speakeasy.net>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Yahoo Petition for Captcha fix

Hello Joel,

Didn't Craig's List ultimately put in an audio CAPTCHA?  If not, has anyone
written them directly?  Yes.  Let's get this Yahoo! thing wrapped up then go
after Craig's...  :)

Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking Yahoo!
to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
another person.
Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: Yahoo Petition for Captcha fix

hi,

1. First of all, I went to the link provided below, read the petition and
signed, including a short comment. I'd like to say that the optional comment
area didn't support Jaws very well in Forms mode, and I had to leave it with
mistakes I'd have rather cleaned up, but to keep wrestling with that comment
input field would've taken many attempts and a lot of time. Something needs
attention, there.

2. From the back of the Craig's List bus

Has anyone thought of getting up a similar petition to Craig's List, where
in the past couple of years, the same graphical barrier has sprung up? I
can't post an ad or a comment to a forum without going through an elaborate
procedure of writing the copy in Word or a plain text editor, sending it to
a friend who has my Craig's List user ID and pass, and having them submit
that text in the online form so that I then receive the email that allows me
to edit and publish it. Whew. Not fun. Not equal access, either.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Pattison" <srp at internode.on.net>
To: "GUI Talk" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>; "Access-L" <access-l at access-l.com>;
"VIP L" <vip-l at softspeak.com.au>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 6:24 PM
Subject: [gui-talk] Fwd: Yahoo Petition for Captcha fix

>From: petrakigianos-giasou at yahoo.com
>To: blindreplay at freelists.org
>
>We ask all of you to review and sign the Yahoo's Accessibility
>Improvement Petition at
>
>http://www.petitiononline.com/yabvipma/petition.html
>
>  asking the company to make an audio alternative to its CAPTCHA
>available so that the blind and visually impaired will be
>permitted timely access to the
>same services as those already granted the sighted. The use of a
>telephone callback scheme is totally insufficient as it does not
>grant the same level
>of instant access as the sighted and Yahoo personnel
>do not consistently make contact in a timely manner. It is our
>ongoing contention that visual only CAPTCHA schemes without at
>least an accessible audio
>alternative represent "No Blind People Allowed" signs in much
>the same way as African-Americans were deliberately denied entry
>to restaurants and other
>similar public accomodations in the era of segregation. We ask
>Yahoo to simply fix their grievous error by promptly adding an
>audio CAPTCHA to all its
>properties as soon as possible as part of the company's ongoing
>accessibility initiatives.
>
>Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
>Information should be accessible to us without need of
>translation by another person.
>Blind Access Journal blog and podcast:
>http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
>Check out high quality telecommunications services at
>http://ld.net/?nu7i

Regards Steve
Email:  srp at internode.on.net
Skype:  steve1963
MSN Messenger:  internetuser383 at hotmail.com
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