[gui-talk] need help to open a difficult .pdf file

Wed Jul 11 14:45:48 CDT 2007

nick,

I understand, and that's quite sensible. But in this case, it is simply a 
text document that someone's created a .pdf from in this way, for other 
reasons, I suppose. Maybe there was an illustration or something in the 
original, which won't come through in the readable version. That would 
explain it. But I get what you mean.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson at bellsouth.net>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] need help to open a difficult .pdf file

Actually, "image file", are most common among archivists, and corporate 
user's who need such aspects of a document as signatures, seals, logos, and 
the
like, which wouldn't be available in recognized--or text only--versions of 
the file.

Nick

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:15:18 -0700, Joel Deutsch wrote:

 Ray,

 I guess I saw this message and responded to it. I said I have Open Book, 
but
 haven't yet learned this procedure on it. So I'm sorry to have made you
 write all those clear instructions, below. Thanks again. Also, I'm trying 
to
 learn to do the same thing using Office Tools and Word, if chuck will
 clarify his initial instructions.

 Whew. I know the people who create a .pdf this way must think it's the most
 convenient way to do it, but what a drag to deal with.

 Thanks again.
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr at bellsouth.net>
 To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [gui-talk] need help to open a difficult .pdf file

 Hi Joel,

     I guess my original message never made it to the list.  Here's how I
 pulled it off.

 IF you've got Omnipage Pro version 15
 with pdf creator, you can do this.

 1.  find the file by browsing to it in the normal way.

 2.  Now, press the applications key which should open the context menu.

 3.  Within this menu, you will notice a submenu called "omnipage submenu".

 4.  click on this submenu.

 5.  Within this menu, you will notice a number of options for converting
 your file in to various formats.  Just click on the one you want.

 6.  After a short time, you will notice that a new file has been dropped in
 to the same folder as the original document.  This file will be a converted
 form of the file you were trying to read; and, it will have the same name 
as
 the original but with the file's extension reflecting the conversion.

     IF I understand correctly, I believe Open Book and Kirtzwile also have
 pdf convertion.

 Did you get the converted file?

 Sincerely yours,
 The Constantly Barefooted,
 Ray
 Home phone and fax:
 (985)853-0139
 E-mail:
 r__||//__f__||//__o__||//__r__||//__e__||//__t__||//__j__||//__r__||//__a__||//__t__||//__b__||//__e__||//__l__||//__l__||//__s__||//__o__||//__u__||//__t__||//__h__||//__d__||//__o__||//__t__||//__n__||//__e__||//____||//__t Skype Name: barefootedray Blog: www.raysworld.blogs.com Podcast .rss Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/worldofray God bless President George W. Bush! God bless our troops! and God bless America ----- Original Message ----- From: "W. Nick Dotson" < nickdotson at bellsouth.net> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" < gui-talk at nfbnet.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [gui-talk] need help to open a difficult .pdf file It could be a "pdf" made of page images, which need to be OCR'ed. Nick On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:24:58 -0700, Joel Deutsch wrote:  Hi,  Usually, when I encounter a .pdf file, I can click on it and have it open  and become readable with Adobe Reader. I have the latest version, if I  remember correctly, and it set itself up to interact with Jaws when I  installed it.  But with this file, when I try to open it, I get the Adobe interfacescreen  (I can see this happening) but, within a few seconds after I hear theusual  message that Adobe's preparing the document for reading, a message comeson  saying Warning! Empty document.  Warning? This is like a terrorist problem or something? Anyway, I'm sure  it's not an empty (does that mean blank?) document to the person who sent it  to me. Why is Adobe saying it's empty, now?  I'm I composed this message as a forward in order to retain the .pdf file  attachment, but I just realized it'll be stripped out of the email as the  message is distributed. Oh, well. So if anyone more experienced than me  would like to try their hand at opening the file so they can help mefigure  out how to handle an impasse like this, just write me at jdeutsch at dslextreme.com , and I'll gladly send the file as I meant to do here  to begin with.  thankss a lot. _______________________________________________ gui-talk mailing list gui-talk at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gui-talk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [gui-talk] need help to open a difficult .pdf file Ray, First, thanks very much! But second, I hope you explain in your email how you did it. Because I guess I really ought to understand this sort of problem and learn to solve it. Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr at bellsouth.net> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [gui-talk] need help to open a difficult .pdf file Joel, I just took care of it for you.  Check your in box for a private message from me.  Attached to this message will be your file converted from .pdf scanned immage to an accessible .rtf file. Sincerely yours, The Constantly Barefooted, Ray Home phone and fax: (985)853-0139 E-mail: r__||//__f__||//__o__||//__r__||//__e__||//__t__||//__j__||//__r__||//__a__||//__t__||//__b__||//__e__||//__l__||//__l__||//__s__||//__o__||//__u__||//__t__||//__h__||//__d__||//__o__||//__t__||//__n__||//__e__||//____||//__t Skype Name: barefootedray Blog: www.raysworld.blogs.com Podcast .rss Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/worldofray God bless President George W. Bush! God bless our troops! and God bless America ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [gui-talk] need help to open a difficult .pdf file Nick, Maybe that's it. Oh, God. does that mean I have to learn this whol thing about using the Freedom Printer function in Open Book, and this, and that? I'll bet anything you're a Kurzweill person and wouldn't know. Or do you? ----- Original Message ----- From: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson at bellsouth.net> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [gui-talk] need help to open a difficult .pdf file It could be a "pdf" made of page images, which need to be OCR'ed. Nick On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:24:58 -0700, Joel Deutsch wrote:  Hi,  Usually, when I encounter a .pdf file, I can click on it and have it open  and become readable with Adobe Reader. I have the latest version, if I  remember correctly, and it set itself up to interact with Jaws when I  installed it.  But with this file, when I try to open it, I get the Adobe interfacescreen  (I can see this happening) but, within a few seconds after I hear theusual  message that Adobe's preparing the document for reading, a message comeson  saying Warning! Empty document.  Warning? This is like a terrorist problem or something? Anyway, I'm sure  it's not an empty (does that mean blank?) document to the person who sent it  to me. Why is Adobe saying it's empty, now?  I'm I composed this message as a forward in order to retain the .pdf file  attachment, but I just realized it'll be stripped out of the email as the  message is distributed. Oh, well. So if anyone more experienced than me  would like to try their hand at opening the file so they can help mefigure  out how to handle an impasse like this, just write me at  jdeutsch at dslextreme.com, and I'll gladly send the file as I meant to do here  to begin with.  thankss a lot. _______________________________________________ gui-talk mailing list gui-talk at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gui-talk -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/894 - Release Date: 7/10/2007 5:44 PM _______________________________________________ gui-talk mailing list gui-talk at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gui-talk _______________________________________________ gui-talk mailing list gui-talk at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gui-talk -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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