[gui-talk] New accessible technology was Olympus recorders

albert griffith albertpgriffith at hotmail.com
Fri Feb 2 10:04:13 CST 2007 

While the Icon is only $1395, to receive the benefits I described in my 
earlier post, the price goes up to, at least, $1800 to account for the 
docking station and the necessary accessories.  Add the HMA. and SMA. and as 
I said, you're talking $2000.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris G" <cgrabowski73 at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] New accessible technology was Olympus recorders


| that's what i thought, i have one and really like it.  the Icon that is.
| don't have the docking station.
|
|
|
| On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:50:21 -0500
| "Stephen Guerra" <stephen at independentliving.com> wrote:
|
| > Chris, it is $1395 and with the docking station it is $395 more
| >
| >
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| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
On
| > Behalf Of Chris G
| > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:34 AM
| > To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
| > Subject: Re: [gui-talk] New accessible technology was Olympus recorders
| >
| > 2 grand?
| > isn't it around 1395?
| >
| >
| >
| > On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 00:06:12 -0500
| > "albert griffith" <albertpgriffith at hotmail.com> wrote:
| >
| > > I'm watching the development of Icon.  If they're able to finish it,
| > > it will be the all-in-one device I'm looking for.  Note taker, cell
| > > phone, recorder, calendar, stop watch timer, alarms, a 30 gig hard
| > > drive, wireless and blue tooth connectivity, and Windows copy
| > > protected format capabilities.  I'll gladly pay the two grand for
| > something like this.
| > > ----- Original Message -----
| > > From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
| > > To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
| > > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:44 PM
| > > Subject: [gui-talk] New accessible technology was Olympus recorders
| > >
| > >
| > > | Yes, I can understand that. I'm probably a little more daring than
| > > | that but then again I have the time to go through things and I
| > > | understand fully that not everyone has the time or the patience that
| > > | I and others probably have. Ok, you make a small mistake but its not
| > > | the end of the world, you're still here, the world hasn't ended, you
| > > | still have a roof over your head etc.
| > > | the most difficult product I've ever had to master? Well, that's
| > > | been without a doubt my Panasonic DVD/vCR recorder combo where both
| > > | units record, the machine has a twin tuner etc, now that thing
| > > | really took some getting used to but I'm using it now.
| > > |
| > > | On 02/02/2007, at 12:30 PM, albert griffith wrote:
| > > |
| > > | This brings to mind a time when many of us were taken by the
| > > | announcement of a dictionary put out by the Franklin company.  This
| > > | was just before the Language master when we had no portable
| > > | dictionaries.  It was listed in the old Aids and Appliances
| > > | catalogue.  It was described as accessible.
| > > | They
| > > | said it announced the words.  What we didn't know was that it only
| > > | announced what you were inputting and it didn't read the
| > > | definitions.  If I had been able to afford it, I'd have been in the
| > > | same boat as two of my friends who did buy the thing.  They got a
| > > | refund but I've been appropriately guarded in my approach to new
| > > | technology every since.
| > > | ----- Original Message -----
| > > | From: "don bishop" <w6smb at donbishop.org>
| > > | To: "gui-talk" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
| > > | Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:13 PM
| > > | Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
| > > |
| > > |
| > > || YOu know,
| > > ||
| > > || When I first heard about these new recorders they really sounded
| > > || great and maybe a perfect replacement for the Book Courier.  But,
| > > || at the same time I had the feeling that it was too good to be true,
| > > || and apparently that's the way it is.
| > > ||
| > > || Maybe it's okay for someone who just wants a digital recorder, but
| > > || if you're serious about such things as using it for a player as
| > > || well, it just isn't worth it in it's current state.
| > > ||
| > > || It also goes to show that accessability is in the eyes of the
| > > || accesser.
| > > ||
| > > || Don
| > > ||
| > > ||
| > > ||
| > > || *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
| > > ||
| > > || On 2/1/2007 at 8:04 PM George and Pamela Dominguez wrote:
| > > ||
| > > || >Okay, but the things you said disappointed you are things that
| > > || would
| > > || >disappoint me, too.  I don't want to pay a lot of money, or for
| > > || that
| > > || >matter,
| > > || >any money for something full of hiss, and I would want something
| > > || that had
| > > || >line ins and outs, too.  I see those things as short-comings.
| > > || Pam.
| > > || >----- Original Message -----
| > > || >From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
| > > || >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
| > > || >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:13 PM
| > > || >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
| > > || >
| > > || >
| > > || >> Ok, well let's get one thing perfectly clear, just because I
| > > || don't
| > > || >> think something is suitable for me doesn't mean that I'm telling
| > > || >> people they shouldn't use it themselves, if the Olympus recorder
| > > || >> sounds the sort of thing you'll want to use then fine! use it to
| > > || your
| > > || >> hearts content, the point I'm making here is that it wouldn't
| > > || suit me
| > > || >> as I believe it has some critical limitations and problems and
| > > || for
| > > || >> the price I believe you should be getting a little more. I've
| > > || already
| > > || >> expressed my disappointment at the level of audio hiss present
| > > || in
| > > || >> some of the recordings I've now heard, for a digital recorder
| > > || this is
| > > || >> not good and there is no excuse for that.
| > > || >> I expressed disappointment that the unit has no line in or out
| > > || jacks
| > > || >> however I can see where Olympus is coming from here, I guess
| > > || with
| > > || >> something designed mainly for dictation purposes which this
| > > || machine
| > > || >> is, then such things as line in and out are not worth
| > > || considering.
| > > || >> Finally my greatest annoyance would be that the memory cannot be
| > > || >> expanded, swapped etc, that's worse than a conventional cassette
| > > || >> recorder and a bad flaw.
| > > || >> So I guess the question has to be asked, are people prepared to
| > > || pay
| > > || >> this sort of money for something which on the whole, isn't
| > > || really
| > > || >> anything in my view to write home about? Are people willing to
| > > || pay
| > > || >> all this money just for a voice guidance system?? I'm certainly
| > > || not
| > > || >> but that's just me. I'm after the new Minidisc machine as this
| > > || sort
| > > || >> of device will suit me better. It will handle dictation easily
| > > || thanks
| > > || >> to its feeld microphone or any other external microphones you
| > > || may
| > > || >> care to use. You can edit your notes or your audio recordings
| > > || "on the
| > > || >> fly", that's more than can be said for my Iriver and the lack of
| > > || >> editing facilities is a huge disappointment for me on that
| > > || machine
| > > || >> but this topic is probably for another post.
| > > || >> I can record audio to my hearts content thanks to the
| > > || analog/digital
| > > || >> line input and output.
| > > || >> Yes, the minidisc recorder doesn't have a voice guideance system
| > > || that
| > > || >> I grant you however I have 2 minidisc machines here, both of
| > > || which
| > > || >> I've been able to access many of the functions of including the
| > > || >> editing functions, by having someone read parts of the manual to
| > > || me,
| > > || >> taking notes and having someone go through the menus of my
| > > || machines
| > > || >> whilst I write so taking this into account, I'd rather something
| > > || with
| > > || >> functionality over voice guidance systems etc, they're nice but
| > > || >> they're not the only thing which makes a good product.
| > > || >>
| > > || >> On 02/02/2007, at 2:53 AM, George and Pamela Dominguez wrote:
| > > || >>
| > > || >> Do you have one you would suggest instead??  Pam.
| > > || >> ----- Original Message -----
| > > || >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
| > > || >> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
| > > || >> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:03 AM
| > > || >> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
| > > || >>
| > > || >>
| > > || >> > I'm going to have a few cents here as well.
| > > || >> > The recorder is not for me but this is just me.
| > > || >> > Firstly, it doesn't have any line in or out so that takes it
| > > || off the
| > > || >> > list for a start and given this fact then I personally
| > > || wouldn't call
| > > || >> > the recorder a "quality recorder", its meant as a dictation
| > > || machine
| > > || >> > it would seem to me and probably doest that jub reasonably
| > > || well.
| > > || >> > The other thing which turns me of this unit is the hiss the
| > > || unit
| > > || >> > seems to generate in all the samples I've heard thus far.
| > > || >> > Now I CANNOT CONFIRM THIS BECAUSE I'VE NOT HEARD IT FOR MYSELF
| > > || BUT
| > > || >> > I'VE TALKED TO OTHER USERS OF THIS RECORDER AND THEY SAY IT
| > > || "CLIPS"
| > > || >> > VERY EASILY, THAT BEING THE CASE THEN THIS IS BAD AS THERE IS
| > > || NO
| > > || >> > REASON WHY THIS SHOULD HAPPEN WITH A digital recording device.
| > > || >> >
| > > || >> > On 01/02/2007, at 6:44 PM, albert griffith wrote:
| > > || >> >
| > > || >> > Dane, thanks
| > > || >> > ----- Original Message -----
| > > || >> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
| > > || >> > To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
| > > || >> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:31 AM
| > > || >> > Subject: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
| > > || >> >
| > > || >> >
| > > || >> > | since this seems to be a hot topic right now, I thought I'd
| > > || mention
| > > || >> > | that you'll find another review in 2 parts at
| > > || >> > | http://www.blindcooltech.com
| > > || >> > |
| > > || >> > | Dane Trethowan
| > > || >> > | Phone: +613 9747 3975
| > > || >> > | Fax: +613 9743 7954
| > > || >> > | Mobile: +61 425 777 508
| > > || >> > | Skype: grtdane11
| > > || >> > |
| > > || >> > |
| > > || >> > |
| > > || >> > |
| > > || >> >
| > > || >> >
| > > || >> >
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